Dinghy kedging

[Mirelle]

Kedging off

What I meant was - if you are aground, as happens from time to time even in the best regulated circles (!) you will lay the kedge out towards deeper water, but it probably won't be that deep, except in the special case (been there, done that thing, got the T shirt...) of going aground on a glacial moraine in a fjord, or goung aground on a coral reef (not done that...yet!).

Usually, the spot you drop the kedge in will be a bit deeper, but not much, so the pull on the kedge from the windlass or winch will be fairly horizontal. In that case, the chain won't, I think, add much

 

[jerryat]

Re: Kedging off

Hi Mirelle,

Yes, I can see the argument as I said earlier, and if it works that's fine. My own preference is to use both chain/warp (I do have them spliced together!!) because hauling in the the set-up I have is relatively easy, so I don't see any advantage in making it any lighter.

As I said, we've had some super ideas in this thread and, as it should be, people have their own views and experience of what works for them. There is seldom 'the perfect way' of doing things in boating thank goodness and it would soon get pretty boring if there was don't you think?!!

Regards Jerry

 

[Anonymous]

Re: This is getting good - I like it

Hi Jerry, I am always single-handed (my wife doesn't take part in the sailing or boaty things) and I need to think even the simplest procedures through carefully before I start - indeed, I think the whole operation through several times for every new procedure so I tend to stick to the same technique when it works /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I find it very easy to let the kedge go with the chain and warp, on a fender. It takes some courage the first time, but it is so much easier to get the bower up when you are not anchored astern, and have nothing to worry about near to your prop and rudder. Picking it up again is a doddle. Of course, once you have recovered the kedge fender, you are again at anchor, so if you wish you can go and have a cuppa to recover if you have tired yourself in the first part of the exercise /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Those who are not feeble will not need to do this /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Wansworth]

Re: SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GET THEMSELVES KILLED SHORTLY

mirelle,

I must admit to being unfitand 5O ISH also! Part of the reason I sold my boat was I was knackered hauling kedges et al,but would not imagine owning any size of craft with out a proper solid dinghy,when boats get up in the high diplacement
any heavy work has to be careful calculated

 

[snowleopard]

If your kedge is a Fortress, say less than 10 lb, with an all-rope line, the question of tipping over the dinghy really doesn't arise. The important thing is to put the line in the dinghy and let it pay out as you row or motor away. When you get to a suitable spot, throw it over (literally).

 

[Wansworth]

In anything of a blow its advisable to row twice the distance to allow for drift if your going to put the oars down ,stand up and hurl said anchourIMHO

 

[ChrisE]

Why do you stand up? You'll end up as one of Mirelle's statistics if you're not careful!

Lke snowleopard, we have a 19lb Fortress and have rowed it out loads of times for setting a second anchor, put anchor in bottom of dink and lobbed it over the side at the right moment from a sitting position. Perhaps, I'm not as concerned as Mirelle abt possible capsize 'cos our dink is a 13' inflatable RIB.

 

[Anonymous]

What's puzzling me is why anyone would WANT to lift the kedge over the side when they can lash it alongside, over the transom, the bow, or whatever. It is so easy to do and all you need to do is loose the tie and away she goes. Hanging it over the side equates to the bower anchor at rest on a roller, it is natural to do it this way...why on earth ship it inside the tender? What is there to gain? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[Wansworth]

I was replying to snowleopard who suggested "throwin" an anchour,I myself quite content to "tip" the anchour hanging over the stern of my "proper dinghy".I would have to stand up to throw any anchour anywhere.Im downsizing to a little bilge keeler from which Iwill not hurl any anchours,but wait patiently till the tide rises!

 

[Anonymous]

[ QUOTE ]
Im downsizing to a little bilge keeler from which Iwill not hurl any anchours,but wait patiently till the tide rises!

[/ QUOTE ]I presume that you are in Atlantic Spain, then? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif We used to have a little bilge keeler before we upsized to liveaboard for a while - when we finish living aboard I think we'll get another one if we decide to settle near tidal waters. Our Centaur sailed beautifully and was incredibly spacious, comfortable and seaworthy for such a small boat.

 

[Wansworth]

I lived aboard for sereral years and we did hardly any sailing.Always everything thing seemed too housey to stow away for sea.

 

[Anonymous]

It is a real risk; my parents got into that 'state' and stayed put for years. We are trying to avoid it - we have only signed up for a winter berth until 1st April and have put our names down for a cruise in company from Almerimar to Morocco in Feb. Trouble is you tend to make friends and settle in with all the services quite quickly and it is hard to cut the umbilical.

 

[Wansworth]

This is the unspoken of side of boat living there is a distinction between living on a b oat and extended cruising ala Hiscock.Faced with having to undock put everything away,clear the decks of accumulated useful stuff,plus washing,and get alround general appoval of said outing,worst still if you have neighbours.The lat straw is when somebody gives you a telly(FROM KINDNEST) and you end up hoisting the ariel up the mast with the peak halliard!

 

[Wansworth]

SORRY! NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH KEDGING! Kedging is real boaty stuffnothinf to do with the unspoken side ....

 

[Roberto]

If your kedge + rode is biggish and you find it difficult to row it away form the boat, you may try using a thin line tied to the bitter end of the rode: you put everything in the dinghy (kedge outside if you prefer), chain plus the whole length of cable, then row away having someone in the boat paying off the thin line; once in the desired spot you can release the kedge and rode which can then be pulled back to the boat by the thin line

the thin line allows the dinghy much more freedom in movement, and it almost does not pull it back to the boat so it is a bit more comfortable

 

[snowleopard]

[ QUOTE ]
I was replying to snowleopard who suggested "throwin" an anchour,I myself quite content to "tip" the anchour hanging over the stern of my "proper dinghy".I would have to stand up to throw any anchour anywhere.Im downsizing to a little bilge keeler from which Iwill not hurl any anchours,but wait patiently till the tide rises!

[/ QUOTE ]
Not suggesting an olympic shotput - merely that with my 4.5 kg kedge I don't have to heave it over the transom with associated risk of falling in etc. I just toss it far enough to clear the boat, and I do it from a sitting position amidships.

An equivalent steel anchor, say a 25 lb CQR, would require a much more circumspect approach.

 

[Wansworth]

Snowleopard,You are correct,certainly with asmall anchour you can be sitting ,even so 4.5 Kilos is a weight! Kedging off normally,in my limited exp does not follow Yachting Monthly photo stories.Its always done in a rush and care must be taken to avid loops round feet etc,so I row further so I have time to get it right.

 

[TQA]

Re: Dinghy kedging To throw or Drop?

While anchored in a blow in the Bahamas I watched someone trying to row out and throw a kedge in an inflatable. [ UPWIND] On the third or fourth attempt they were determined to throw it over the side. initially it was not clear what had happened but 10 seconds later they were in the water. They had thrown it into the side, puncturing the inflateable with two large holes. They swam back to their own boat and the dinghy was recoverd on the beach next morning.

Tie it to the transom dangling down with a slip knot. The safer option esp. with a Fortress.