nortada
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Try buying a new sail.
Not much use on a power boat.
Power boat no diesel = no go
Sail boat older sails = still go, albeit slower.
Demand for marina and mooring berths soars in UK
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Not much use on a power boat.
Power boat no diesel = no go
Sail boat older sails = still go, albeit slower.
Chiara’s slave
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Up to a certain point. A boat we nearly bought ripped it’s mainsail to bits the first time it’s new owners tried hard. That’s about 6 grand on too of their boat purchase. You can buy some diesel with that. Though it’s fair to say that the sail will take you further than the diesel will.Not much use on a power boat.
Power boat no diesel = no go
Sail boat older sails = still go, albeit slower.
xyachtdave
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Ramsgate appear to be having a clear out of old tat, maybe due to the new Harbour Master, good news that the old tug Cervia is going and the Arts Barge project has failed
Agreed some of the craft in the inner harbour needed to be skipped.
The arts barge, you do have to wonder if anyone involved knew anything about the costs involved of renovating something that big and keeping it afloat.
Looks easy on YouTube…
oldgit
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Try buying a new sail.
H,mmm.........Will the current price of marine diesel encourage sail over power
Remember all the "end of the world fuss" when petrol went over £1.00 a litre. .....Anybody noticed any reduction in the number of cars on the road.
The younger keener and less world weary are still upgrading to bigger more powerful MoBos, still filling up and are still planning some quite heavy on fuel trips this summer.
The olde guard are remaining firmly attached to the pontoons while proclaiming the cost of fuel is curtailing their activities.
A "sailing boat" is just a obstical to avoid on route for both of the above groups.
Momac
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I remember when it went to over £1 a gallon.
nortada
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I remember when it went to over £1 a gallon.
I remember 4 gallons for a £ circa 1965.
Seven Spades
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I remember it being 34p a gallon one year and the following year it was 43p. That was after decimalising around 1973. The oil crisis had cause the 20% jump in a year.
Scomber
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5 pints and a bag of crisps for a pound. Hull Uni bar 1975.
Seven Spades
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Have you noticed that young people rarely buy rounds of drinks, they go out together and then go to the bar and get their own drinks.
oldgit
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Not just young people ?
Momac
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Cant say we go out drinking in that way at all these days. If out with friends it tends to be for a meal and the drinks go on a tab.
Biggles Wader
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Very sensible. I would need a mortgage to buy a round of drinks for my mates.
lustyd
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There are many reasons for this. Young people tent to drink less due to social media influence (both pressure not to drink and consequences of so many cameras sharing your misery) and so buying in rounds is seen as a bad thing as it leads to pressure to drink, and drinking more (both of which used to be seen as a good thing). Secondly, a round of drinks at today's prices is simply unaffordable for most people. Alcohol in pubs has increased well over inflation, and cost of living has drastically increased for young people who now have to contend with university fees and student debt, lack of rental properties as well as being completely stuffed by lockdowns which scuppered their chances of getting jobs, and now a global recession to give them one more kick while they're down.
Minerva
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My wife's a teacher - these days youngsters are more likely to hang out on a fri / sat night down at the gym doing weights than in the pub!
OH how times have changed (but probably for the better!)
oldgit
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Another can of worms...........
"We" now tend to be wary of going out in large semi organised groups to eat and drink when out boating.
Things tend to get awkward in the less well organised chain / franchised eateries when the bill arrives.
There will always be the couple who have only had half a lettuce leaf and small glass of the gratis jug of tap water and they insist on only paying to the last farthing (usually on some cash back credit card after presenting some discount vouchers the resturant has never heard of ) .
Why they insist on going out with us "Blimey is that bottle empty already .... lets get a second immediatly is of course a mystery
From experience the resulting fall out can last for ever !
Snowgoose-1
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Have noticed the demnd for marina berth continues. But low usage of boats still going downwards. Time poor bods on never ending treadmill for productivity and efficiency. Even folks who own boat and work in marina never use them.
nortada
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In Portugal, traditionally when out in a group, unless requested to the contrary, the bar/restaurant will maintain eating/drinks bills individually or for couples, which gets around all of the above problems. It also means late comers and early departures do not have to buy into (out of) ‘the round’.Another can of worms...........
"We" now tend to be wary of going out in large semi organised groups to eat and drink when out boating.
Things tend to get awkward in the less well organised chain / franchised eateries when the bill arrives.
There will always be the couple who have only had half a lettuce leaf and small glass of the gratis jug of tap water and they insist on only paying to the last farthing (usually on some cash back credit card after presenting some discount vouchers the resturant has never heard of ).
Why they insist on going out with us "Blimey is that bottle empty already .... lets get a second immediatly is of course a mystery
From experience the resulting fall out can last for ever !
With the price of ‘going out’ rocketing, I am trying to instigate the same system in this country.
Unfortunately, some old, staid in the wood friends regard it as antisocial not to treat all round and some bar, recognising a potential loss in profits and the extra work, are not too keen.
nortada
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The OP lumped a soaring demand for marina berths and (swinging) moorings together.
However, whilst there may a high demand for berths (for larger boats), from observation, swinging moorings appears to be another matter.
Locally, currently, we have less than 20 boats on buoys where previously there were over a hundred. The buoys are still there but the boats are not. Clearly there is no waiting time for buoys.
Aware of the risk of loss of income, I am told that the local marina has dramatically increased the cost of parking and launching a tender to support boats on buoys in the river.
It is still early in the season but I would agree that that it would appear that the usage of boats has plummeted. Think all may become clearer over the next couple of weekends with the 2 public holidays.
Oh yes the going rate for a all states of the tide, (length no object) buoy is £600.
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Boathook
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In post 166 I mentioned the yard was full of boats ashore. As at last weekend, gaps are appearing as they launch boats but a lot are still ashore. Whether the majority of them will launch is a great unknown.
It is as you mention still early in the season and the weather will make a big difference over the next few weeks.
jac
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We should also remember that March and early April were rubbish for weather. My boat is ashore for coppercoat - the yard had to delay be several weeks to wait for the conditions to be right to apply it. How many others have had launches delayed as they didn’t fancy or couldn’t work in the cold and wet.