Deks oil?...Folkboat

[Niander]

Hi I'm renovating a Folkboat that hasn't seen any oil on the wood for a long time
this Deks oil seems ok?
but i'm wondering if there is a cheaper but Farly good alternative...cheers

 

[Poignard]

After using them for 8 years I gave up on oils and went for varnish [Epifanes]; a move I haven't regretted.

I had tried two kinds of oils: Deks Olje and Varnol. I think Varnol was the cheapest. A firm called Black Dog Stores imports it.

There is a man who posts on here called Trouville. He lives on a Folkboat and survives [happily!] on £50 a week. Might be worth asking him what he uses.

 

[Niander]

Why do you like the varnish over oil?

 

[Madeo]

Hi!

I tried Deks when I had my F/boat and found it was a hell of a lot of work and only lasted for a few months. Not impressed at all!

Eventually started using Bondex wood preserver, which needed doing almost as often, but was a max of 3 coats, then a touch up every few months. Much easier - and modern products give a 'not bad' finish...

Bon courage,
Brian.

 

[Peterduck]

Deks Olje is a good product, but you do have to understand that it is a two-part system. Number 1 is a very thin oil which soaks into the wood quite well. you have to put numerous coats of this onto the timber until it won't soak in any more. Then you apply a couple of coats of Number 2. After that an annual coat of number 2 should be enough to keep everything bright. An alternative is Sikkens' "Cetol", which again comes in two parts; the first coats should be of 'HLS', which soaks into the wood, followed by coats of 'Filter 7' which keeps out the UV light. I have usewd both of these and I'm happy with them both.
Peter.

 

[Poignard]

This has been well argued over many times on here and on other forums. My personal experience is:-

It doesn't last very long before it needs re-applying. Although it is supposed to be easy to apply, it is very runny and difficult to apply neatly, especially cutting in to a paint line, eg coachroof/deck joint.

In theory it soaks into the wood and saturates it. In practice it only does so with softwood, or hardwood that has gone soft. It hardly penetrates hardwood that is in good condition.

It has little scuff resistance.

I find that Epifanes varnish lasts longer, looks better and the man-hours maintaining it is less than with oils, despite having to sand down.

However, it's a case of "Yer pays yer money and yer takes yer choice"!

 

[ccscott49]

I agree with Twisterowner!

 

[Casey]

I'm glad that someone else uses modern products - Sikkens!!
Seriously though I have found it very good and very durable.

 

[marinemegastore]

We also recommend the Coelan products for high performance finish. They are used all over the world on Tall Ships etc. The stuff ain't cheap but it leaves the others standing for the big jobs. Has anyone tried their range?

 

[ccscott49]

I've tried it, infact swear by it, used on large sections of my boat.

 

[Niander]

would Teak oil be any use?

 

[Adz]

Hi.

I used Deks oil on My East Anglian alot of work and a year later started to look tired, the following year stripped down and have applied Coelan. Well worth the extra expense. Looks great is very flexible and is said to last upto eight years.

 

[huldah]

I think it is important to understand just what deks number one is. It is an oil that hardens and in so doing, it shrinks. A year later, you will not see it, even if you cut the timber. But it is doing it's job, protecting the fibres of the timber. Treated timber will resist absorbing moisture, and will dry rapidly.

The wood will still need a protective coating to protect it from uv light and abrasion. Plywood soaked in water over a prolonged period, will still be at risk of delaminating.

I applied it over several days, initially giving a coat every 15 minuites, until eventually it would only take a coat every eight hours. (Each new coat softens the previous coat).

Philip