Deck & Gas Cylinders

[Admag]

I am in the process of re-fitting my Dell Quay Ranger 28' (1968) and currently stripping the old varnish off the decking.

1.Could I use Danish Oil as a protection, (4/5 applications) or should I use traditional Yacht varnish?

2.Also, I have 2 gas bottles for cooking purposes etc which are located under the step inside the wheelhouse. This area is properly fitted with drain plug for gas leakage etc, but as the boat is an older model am I permitted to use this location or do they need to be outside on deck etc as i have been told by a friend.
Hope somebody can help me out.
Regards.
William





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[Guest]

Gas and lockers .....

This is an old question and one that will provoke a few responses hopefully.

My boat is older with locker and overboard vent. It is fine and will not be changed unless legislation forces me too.

The biggest cause of gas locker change etc. as far as I understand is INLAND WATERWAYS BOARD regulations and have no bearing wahtsoever on navigable rivers connected to seas and coast / seas etc. where there are no real regulations on this. If your Surveyor or other is OTT you may have small problem with Insurance Co. if locker is not self-draining to overboard in even of gas leakage ....... Butane / Propane is heavier than air ......... I know that some frown on enclosed spaces for gas lockers , but if its the designed locker from builder etc. /.......... stop worrying.


<hr width=100% size=1>Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !

 

[Gelfi]

You could use a danish wood oil for your decking but it will take a lot more than 4-5 coats. You should keep applying it until the surface stays damp, this can take several days, but it depends on the thickness of the planks. This leaves you with a matt finish. If you are using DEKS OJ and require a gloss finish you then need to use there No2 which will give that kind of finish.

It would be as well to test a small portion of the deck first, as the oil may loosen the glue holding the deck planking.

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[chas]

Re: Gas and lockers .....

When I bought my boat, the gas locker drained into the cockpit. I suppose that the theory was that any gas leakage then drained out throught the cockpit drains. Problem was that the outlets for these drains are below the waterline so any gas would have been trapped and probaly would have flowed down the companion way. It had got through goodness knows how many surveys like this.

the locker now has a drain directly overboard.

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[Chris_Stannard]

If you read the current gas regs, which you can find on the web but I do not remember where, the gas bottles should be stowed in a sealed which has drains to the outside above the water line at rest. By sealed I mean so that a leak cannot go back into the boat's internal spaces.
The reason for this are that the valves on gas cylinders sometimes leak, I have had two cylinders in the past year that were full when I got them but empty when I went to use them, although the filled seals were still in tact. The gas obviously went over the side (thank goodness)!
My suggestion would be that if you can make a locker, out of plywood and then lined with a layer of glass fibre to make it gas tight with the drain over the side, you would not only be meeting the spririt of the regulations but would also be making your boat much safer for you and all those who sail with you. the regualtions also include recommendations for pipes leaving the locker.

Good sailing

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[Admag]

Many thanks for all your helpful comments.

Bill

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[AndrewB]

LPG installation: BS5482

Calor Gas issue a <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.calormarineshop.co.uk/marine_gas/boat_safety_scheme.htm>SAFETY LEAFLET</A> describing the requirements of BS5482 part 3 (now obligatory for all new LPG installations fitted on yachts in the UK), as well as other desirable safety standards for yachts.

 

[Stemar]

I'm using le Tonkinois for the woodwork on my boat rather than traditional varnish. You get a gloss finish, or can add gelomat for a satin/mat finish. It's supposed not to flake or chip like normal varnish and claims to be very hard wearing.

Get it from Traditional Boat Supplies in Beccles, Suffolk.

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[vyv_cox]

Re: LPG installation: BS5482

Thanks for that, Andrew. A useful addition to the Socal information.

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