Deben and Ore entrances

[dennyjc]

As always the entrance is perfectly reasonable so long as you don't take liberties.
These include not watching your transit and so allowing the cross-current to sweep you off track (this is the favourite that keeps John White busy with a tow-line), arriving/departing with not enough height of tide, and trying it in a strong onshore blow. Or even combinations of these!:encouragement:

This morning I made another attempt at my ambition of walking from Felixstowe to Bawdsey but there was still too much depth for my wellies -
even though John White came down to point at the shallow patches.

Here is a photo taken from a wading depth of 0.3m (with 0.4m height of tide).

 

[Capt Popeye]

This morning I made another attempt at my ambition of walking from Felixstowe to Bawdsey but there was still too much depth for my wellies -
even though John White came down to point at the shallow patches.

Here is a photo taken from a wading depth of 0.3m (with 0.4m height of tide).

Err where has Bawdsey gone then, if wading from the Ferry ?

 

[dennyjc]

Err where has Bawdsey gone then, if wading from the Ferry ?

Ah - The picture is facing south as you probably realise. Walking the shortest direct crossing would have drowned me (or more likely just washed me south)
Here's my *approximate* intended route - it goes to blue dashes where I failed

 

[Capt Popeye]

Humm thank you, I was a bit puzzled as I was expecting a pic with Bawdsey in the Background; yes it does show just how shallow the entrance can be with a low low tide.
So if running aground in the entrance I suppose one can just wait until about low tide and walk ashore, (either one) then; Perhaps a good place to 'dry out' and scrub the bottom off ?

Thank you

 

[PeterWright]

Beaching in that tidal stream would not be a good plan. It can also get quite bouncy ibn a stiff breeze.

Peter

 

[Debennut]

Departed the Deben last Monday around an hour and a half after high water. 3.8 metre tide there was 2.75 meters under a very shallow keel. Previous posts are right, there seems to be no less water than last year, just narrower.

I found the pots on Felixstowe Ledge just as worrying, some had no flags at all, just a stick!

See here:

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?476731-Petition-to-stop-lobster-traps-trapping-us

 

[LittleSister]

Do be aware if attempting to walk across that even if the depth were such that it was less than the height of your wellies, the flow may well be enough to knock you off your feet.

 

[Troublesome Reach]

The new Imray-drawn entrance chartlets are now available on the ECP website. Enjoy!

Long time forum reader, first time poster, so please be gentle!

On both chartlets it is noticeable that there are significantly less spot depths shown than in previous years. When the chartlets state that "Bearing lines shown on the chartlet give bearings from one buoy to the next on entry, and do not necessarily mark the route with the best water" it would be nice to be given some clues as to where that deeper water may be.

Other than the contour lines there appears to get little indication as to what the actual depth is through either entrance. Without this forum and the sage advice from Deben Pilot, all we would know from the chart is that is between 0m and 2m depth. For the Ore entrance I am completely in the dark as to what the least depth is, and where the (slightly) deeper water is to be found.

It really would be nice to have a few more spot depths on each chartlet.

 

[ChrisJBSC]

But the actual depths change every week! MUCH better to show "dangerous depths be careful" and leave people to carefully pick there way through.

 

[PeterWright]

I'm just grateful fr the first class up to date information we get, for free, from those who do the surveying and publish the chartlets. As I've said before, if you give a good margin by only crossing above half tide, there's plenty of water for drafts up to 2m on the buoyed line. This "half tide rule" works for many E Coast ports, and has served for decades to my knowledge and probably before that.

Peter

 

[Stork_III]

I'm just grateful fr the first class up to date information we get, for free, from those who do the surveying and publish the chartlets. As I've said before, if you give a good margin by only crossing above half tide, there's plenty of water for drafts up to 2m on the buoyed line. This "half tide rule" works for many E Coast ports, and has served for decades to my knowledge and probably before that.

Peter

Perhaps they need to be published in the Ukraine? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-39761854

 

[sailorman]

Perhaps they need to be published in the Ukraine? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-39761854;)

And not for the first time is it.
Guess the onshore wind didn't help, most of us would have diverted to HH. Spose they had a taxi on the quay waiting for them
I wonder if Phillip charged them or sidled-up

 

[Seashoreman]

Perhaps they need to be published in the Ukraine? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-39761854;)

This link doesn't work which seems a little sinister to me. Is this something to do with the Aldeburgh Lifeboat shout to river mouth this afternoon? Sometimes cant understand Sailormans cryptic clues.

 

[Malish]

try
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-39761854

 

[sailorman]

This link doesn't work which seems a little sinister to me. Is this something to do with the Aldeburgh Lifeboat shout to river mouth this afternoon? Sometimes cant understand Sailormans cryptic clues.

Not the first time = its happened before, ones at about 03.00 hrs

try this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-39761854

 

[Seashoreman]

Not the first time = its happened before, ones at about 03.00 hrs

try this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-39761854

Thank you, did get a working link from Alde RNLI. Could you tell me what you mean by 'ones at about 03.00hrs'?
As I live locally I am aware of details of previous landing.

 

[sailorman]

Thank you, did get a working link from Alde RNLI. Could you tell me what you mean by 'ones at about 03.00hrs'?
As I live locally I am aware of details of previous landing.

I believe it was on the Quay CCTV that was noted after the horse had bolted ( so to speak ), made the local tv news

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...n-run-after-sailing-into-sleepy-suffolk-town/

http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/orford-i...ntry-through-orford-quay-are-jailed-1-3790953

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=immigrants+land+at+orford+suffolk&t=opera&ia=web

 

[Capt Popeye]

And not for the first time is it.
Guess the onshore wind didn't help, most of us would have diverted to HH. Spose they had a taxi on the quay waiting for them
I wonder if Phillip charged them or sidled-up

Humm supose the 'give away' was that they were not flying the EC burgee ?