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That could indeed be a dayrate in high season for a 50 footer in a very expensive marina (Camper&Nicholson in Göcek comes to mind). But dayrate really means the rate for just one day. A monthly rate is never dayrate times 30. You would expect to pay significantly less if you sign up for a month and I thought that was the question. In reality, if you cruise around this area there are so many nice anchorages and restaurant jetties that you really do not spend much time or money in marinas. You only do that typically when you have to leave the boat to fly away somewhere. But then you will not leave your boat in any of these high priced places, that is if you care about your money. Lots of good priced alternatives around.
 
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Hi SeaVenture, would love to help you but it is a bit difficult without knowing what you are looking at. Let me explain the Turkish system as I understand it: yes, you are very often charged for "area" occupied. This is because there are so many cats in this area and only charging for length would not really be fair to the rest of us. So you take your length times your beam and you come up with an "area". Then you multiply this with a pricing factor that will be different depending on your length of stay, i.e. a dayrate is more than 30 days stay. You will often see a table in the price list and you have to make sure you pick the correct column corresponding to your desired stay. If you did indeed come up with 1300 euros for a month, then you have very probably looked in the wrong column. That does not sound like a price that anybody would charge around here. I would expect to pay between 100-200 euro per month for my 39 foot, depending on place and time of year.

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I went on the site you suggested, portbodrum.com, and did the yearly, then three-monthly rates. It's the three-month rate that came out so high for me on a daily basis. We plan to anchor out most of the time, but had looked at various places where we might eventually leave the boat to fly home. In the States, the SF Bay marina cost $500 a month, up river, $400, in Mexico, closer to $600, on the East Coast, $9 a foot in DC, $5 in parts of NC. I guess on our limited budget, we'll be sticking close to the boat in other parts of the world, and if we have to leave, we'll have the boat hauled.

Thanks for your help!

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Hello For the last couple of seasons ive left my boat in greece but sailed on the Turkish coast. imo much nicer than the Greek islands ,people much more friendly.However on this forum I find people stating very low prices for boat storage and berthing.I have never been able to find these low prices and ive been to all of the Marinas mentioned here.The best price I can find away from my base in Poros is In Cos marine. For my 13.3 boat they want 2613euro inc vat ,Lifting charge 631 euro, with free electric 240v 16 amps. Cats are charged +50% Best price I can find in Turkey is 3005 euro pa. cheers bobt
 
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I've been spending my time in Turkey for the last three years, on and off. We're now here perm.

We are currently in Yat Lift, which is rated as the best boat yard in the Bodrum area and it's the only boat yard where you can stay on the boat. The workmanship is very good though they do charge tourist prices. Even so, if you have a problem/issue with your boat then Yat Lift is more geared up to the job than the other yards in this area (they deal mainly with gullets).

Phrases? Start with 'Merhaba' (Hello). This and a smile gets you off to a good start!

With regards to 12 month prices on marinas - even if you don't stay in the marina for 12 months the cost of 6 months vs 12 months is not that different due to the sliding scales of charges. So even if you don't use the marina for 3 months, it may still be worth considering the 12 month option.

On the other hand there are so many anchorages here you can spend weeks away from the marina. There are loads of restaurants that have their own water and leccy. If you eat at the restaurant you can stay for the night and top up on water and leccy for nothing.
 
Thnx Christer, I see from portbodrum website that they can lift boats up to 7.8m wide.
At 7.62m I could just squeeze in. However they don't seem to be keen on boats spending more than a week ashore. Must check the max width at Marmaris, where I'm assuming thay have enough dry storage for the whole winter.
 
Ece Saray ( Fethiye) Marina costs for your boat would be roughly as follows according to their web site.
17m x 4.5m = 76.5 sq m x 51.32 euro ( 12 months) =3925euro
or 76.5 sq m x 38.38 =2936 euros for 6 months.
this is in line with my costs for 12,55m x 3.8 x 51.32 =2447 euros for 12 months. This includes water but not power.
 
Chrisgee,

Thank you. That's certainly not inexpensive. Oh, well. We have lots of anchors. Do you have any idea what it costs to leave a boat such as ours on the hard, including haul out where you mention? We're going to need places to leave Sea Venture for periods to go tend ageing relatives.

Thanks for all your help.
 
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In the States, the SF Bay marina cost $500 a month, up river, $400, in Mexico, closer to $600, on the East Coast, $9 a foot in DC, $5 in parts of NC.

[/ QUOTE ] SeaVenture, I don't think you will have any problems finding marinas in Turkey that can match SF Bay on price. There is a large range of prices so you have to look around and do some negotiations, but it is not difficult.
 
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and if we have to leave, we'll have the boat hauled.

[/ QUOTE ] This might not be your best option. As mentioned above, there are marinas with very reasonable prices leaving the boat in the water. They usually charge the same for land storage plus you have to pay for the hauling in and out. I have seen prices from as low as 100 euros (Bodrum during the race week) up to the 630 euros mentioned above for Kos (Greece). "Normal price" seems to be around 250 euros, so if you can leave the boat in the water that would be your cheapest option.
 
Will also look out for you --cant wait to get there -- around end May - comomh from Levkas Ionian -- can you recommend good pitstop island in the Cyclades?
 
Hi Chrisgee

Just a quick warning that you that if you are heading for Aegina after the Corinth Canal try to get here before 4.30pm or you may not find a berth, especially at weekends.

If you won't get through the Canal until late an alternative is to go into Korfos (lovely big sheltered bay and you can anchor or go stern to the tavernas) and then come over to Aegina the next morning.

Cheers

Melody
 
I strongly second that. Korfus is a lovely place with lots of space. Anchoring in the middle of the bay is good as well, nice and quiet and great holding. Aegina is also a beautiful place but as you say small and crowded. You are almost guaranteed to have crossed anchorchains due to the horseshoe shape of the harbour. I had three in two days time. One was one of those gin palaces that managed to cover five chains and drag up three when he left.
 
If you want a brief run-down on most of the Aegean islands for route planning purposes, check out my web site.

And when you're planning a route from Ionian to Turkey, don't forget the cheap (if longer) option of going around the south of the Peloponese, a great down-wind cruising ground with some good spots to stay a night or three. Pylos, Kalamata marina (cheap and good), Gythion (for a trip up to Mistras), Elafonisos (turquoise sand anchorages), Monemvassia (amazing mediaeval village).

And for incredibly cheap mooring for those expensive catamarans, use the village harbours and unfinished marinas of Greece. Pylos, Syros, Lipsi come to mind. Or just anchor off in the many hundreds of shetered bays . . .
 
We are going to be wintering in Turkey this year and so far Yacht Marin is coming out favourite because of facilities, but Marti Marina is close behind. Does anybody have 1st hand experience of either of these marinas ie do they get affected by the winter storms and which is most child friendly?
Thanks
 
I have stayed two winters in Yacht Marine and can really recommend it. Best facilities of all sorts I have seen anywhere in the world. Only thing was that showers was a bit cramped (by Turkish standards, they are usually excellent) but last time I was there in September they were rebuilding some so this might have been fixed now. I would also rate it most childfriendly, having a wonderful pool area, and more importantly, more kids than most other marinas. Did not experience any problems with the winter storms, although there are usually one or two big ones coming through.

Marti Marina is also excellent, but somewhat behind Yacht Marine in facilities. You can also get a bit lonely there, but that might not always be a problem. Yacht Marine is bustling 360 days a year.
 
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