marineman
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We're just about to move our boat from Naples, Italy to Turkey, any tips on local customs, phrases etc to help the move go smoothly? Any advice for the best crossing route would also be much appreciated
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Richard10002
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Sorry ti hijack the thread but we are planning to head for the Amalfi Coast from Sardinia in July. The initial plan was to anchor off Positano, then either anchor or go alongside in Amalfi. Is this fairly straightforward? Any advice welcomed.
Where are you moored in Naples? Is it safe? Do you have a guardiano? What kind of mooring costs could we wxpect 13.1m in July?
Cheers
Richard
Where are you moored in Naples? Is it safe? Do you have a guardiano? What kind of mooring costs could we wxpect 13.1m in July?
Cheers
Richard
scarlett
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Amalfi coast
The Oggi. in Amalfi was very helpful and though I cannot remember how much we paid, it was resonable. When a swell came in in the afternoon he attached four of his own lines to help our unattended boat. And Amalfi is worth a visit.
I have never heard anything good of Naples and Torre something. Had a bad time in Ischia and Procida harbours. Picalo Marina anchorage on Capri is good but the harbour expensive at 180 Euro for June Saturday night in a 30 foot boat.
Agropoli to the south is free for a couple of days. Ponza harbour to the north is spoilt by being too crowded but there are plenty of good anchorages, though all are subject to swell.
This is 2006 IMHO info.
The Oggi. in Amalfi was very helpful and though I cannot remember how much we paid, it was resonable. When a swell came in in the afternoon he attached four of his own lines to help our unattended boat. And Amalfi is worth a visit.
I have never heard anything good of Naples and Torre something. Had a bad time in Ischia and Procida harbours. Picalo Marina anchorage on Capri is good but the harbour expensive at 180 Euro for June Saturday night in a 30 foot boat.
Agropoli to the south is free for a couple of days. Ponza harbour to the north is spoilt by being too crowded but there are plenty of good anchorages, though all are subject to swell.
This is 2006 IMHO info.
chrisgee
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Hi welcome to the Forum. We are in Ionian at the moment and going on to Turkey about mid May. Have booked our marina berth in Fethiye --12 .8 m fo about £1550.00 a year -- cant be bad.
As for routes I was about to ask the same questions We will probably make our way throught he Corinth Canal to Aegina where there is a good harbour and stright across with couple of stops say Naxox, Kos ,whatever. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
As for routes I was about to ask the same questions We will probably make our way throught he Corinth Canal to Aegina where there is a good harbour and stright across with couple of stops say Naxox, Kos ,whatever. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Swagman
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Hi,
We sped across to N Turkey last April from Mallorca.
We went to join East Med Rally hence destination - you may well be aiming further south.
Broad route plan saw Mallorca - Sardinia 2 days one night and overnighted in marina.
Sardinia to Sicilily - same time frame.
Had a second night in Porto Rosa close to top of Messina Straights, then onward via Straights to Kefalonia. Two days one night again (from memory).
Ovenighted top half of Gulf of Corinth - via Canal to Agina a day later.
Two day rest in Agina - then day sail to Andros - again two night stop due to weather, then day sail upward to Lesbos, overnight, and day sail to Ayvalik.
We then did man yports down Turkish coast so if you want our impressions check out our blog on www.yotblog.com/swagman. You'll need to get back to April / May 2006 for daily blogs.
We're now on Turkish South coast - Kemer - nice location and good value also.
Good luck
JOHN
We sped across to N Turkey last April from Mallorca.
We went to join East Med Rally hence destination - you may well be aiming further south.
Broad route plan saw Mallorca - Sardinia 2 days one night and overnighted in marina.
Sardinia to Sicilily - same time frame.
Had a second night in Porto Rosa close to top of Messina Straights, then onward via Straights to Kefalonia. Two days one night again (from memory).
Ovenighted top half of Gulf of Corinth - via Canal to Agina a day later.
Two day rest in Agina - then day sail to Andros - again two night stop due to weather, then day sail upward to Lesbos, overnight, and day sail to Ayvalik.
We then did man yports down Turkish coast so if you want our impressions check out our blog on www.yotblog.com/swagman. You'll need to get back to April / May 2006 for daily blogs.
We're now on Turkish South coast - Kemer - nice location and good value also.
Good luck
JOHN
Mr Cassandra
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Interesting .When I try to get good marina prices in Turkey via internet, they want to charge me £2200 for 13.3 mtr yacht .what am I doing wrong? cheers bobt
LadyJessie
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Try www.yachtmarine.com. This is Yacht Marine in Marmaris which is one of the best places in Turkey for wintering and doing all sorts of boat maintenance. It very reasonably priced and it has the largest live-aboard community around the Med so you will have a social life - if you want that... The Marina Restaurant is the best in all of Marmaris!
Swagman
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Interesting .When I try to get good marina prices in Turkey via internet, they want to charge me £2200 for 13.3 mtr yacht .what am I doing wrong? cheers bobt
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Location maybe? Some marinas are really still getting up and running and do offer special deals - sorry can't recall where but did hear of 12m prices closer to £1,000 last year..
Even those more established don't have issues if you haggle.
Remember also you may not want 12 months if you plan and extended vacation in high summer months. If you sail / anchor in July / August you can often reduce price by more than 1/6th.
We've just been quoted 2,900 euros for 12 months for a 14 x 4.5 metre in Kemer, but they will also apply 10% 'discount' for our Cruising Association Membership, and if we planned to stay there would also 'negotiate' on a final price.
I suggest you let them all know you are checking out other marinas - remind them cost is an important criteria in your choice - and see what each says. Once you've got the lowest price - go back to all others and let them know what you got and ask them to review their offer. Sounds time consuming but it is usually worth it.
FWIW two marinas seem most popular with expats not just on price but also on socials etc. They call them the Marmaris Mob and the Kemer Crew.......
Good luck
JOHN
Interesting .When I try to get good marina prices in Turkey via internet, they want to charge me £2200 for 13.3 mtr yacht .what am I doing wrong? cheers bobt
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Location maybe? Some marinas are really still getting up and running and do offer special deals - sorry can't recall where but did hear of 12m prices closer to £1,000 last year..
Even those more established don't have issues if you haggle.
Remember also you may not want 12 months if you plan and extended vacation in high summer months. If you sail / anchor in July / August you can often reduce price by more than 1/6th.
We've just been quoted 2,900 euros for 12 months for a 14 x 4.5 metre in Kemer, but they will also apply 10% 'discount' for our Cruising Association Membership, and if we planned to stay there would also 'negotiate' on a final price.
I suggest you let them all know you are checking out other marinas - remind them cost is an important criteria in your choice - and see what each says. Once you've got the lowest price - go back to all others and let them know what you got and ask them to review their offer. Sounds time consuming but it is usually worth it.
FWIW two marinas seem most popular with expats not just on price but also on socials etc. They call them the Marmaris Mob and the Kemer Crew.......
Good luck
JOHN
Mr Cassandra
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Hi I find that the best location ,for my crusing is D- Marine Turgutreis but the BEST price i can Get is 3005euro this is for in or out of the water .Problem ive got is I keep my boat in Poros Greece for 700euro pa. Went to Turkey last year and found it SO much better than Greece need to go there full time cheers bobt
LadyJessie
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Sorry, a typo in my webpage link above: it should be www.yachtmarin.com for Marmaris Yacht Marine.
MASH
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For the sake of scale I am paying 1800Eu p/a for a 10m boat, deal is 6mth wet/6mth dry inc all lifts and shore storage.
Just outside Marmaris - not Yatmarine - I don't want my boat grit blasted and encrusted in inches of salt in the winter gales., thank you...
And I can swim in my marina!
Kos is cheap and a superb marina too...prices online.
Just outside Marmaris - not Yatmarine - I don't want my boat grit blasted and encrusted in inches of salt in the winter gales., thank you...
And I can swim in my marina!
Kos is cheap and a superb marina too...prices online.
davidbains
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Can anyone sugest which if any Turkish marinas can lift a wide multi for the winter.
At 25ft wide she won't fit in a travelhoist!! Thinking about crossing the Aegean next year, if I can stand the heat and the Meltemi.
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At 25ft wide she won't fit in a travelhoist!! Thinking about crossing the Aegean next year, if I can stand the heat and the Meltemi.
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LadyJessie
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Yacht Marine in Marmaris has three travel lifts, the largest handles 300 tonnes. It lifts out ferries so it will surely handle the largest cats as well.
I think you can disregard the comments by Mash, I don't think he has ever been to Yacht Marine. I have spent two winters there and it was very pleasant.
There is another option if you are looking for value for money: there is a new marina just opened north of Bodrum: Port Bodrum in Yalikavak. Link: www.portbodrum.com. They are still having "introductory offers". I needed to be somewhere else this winter, otherwise I would probably have taken up their offer of around 1500 euro p/a for a 12 meter monohull. I was only there for a couple of days so have limited experience but the infrastructure and staff were absolutely First Class. The location is good, it is closer to Bodrum airport than Bodrum town is. There are frequent minibuses into Bodrum and from there you can get to the Greek island of Kos with a 45 mins fast ferry.
I think you can disregard the comments by Mash, I don't think he has ever been to Yacht Marine. I have spent two winters there and it was very pleasant.
There is another option if you are looking for value for money: there is a new marina just opened north of Bodrum: Port Bodrum in Yalikavak. Link: www.portbodrum.com. They are still having "introductory offers". I needed to be somewhere else this winter, otherwise I would probably have taken up their offer of around 1500 euro p/a for a 12 meter monohull. I was only there for a couple of days so have limited experience but the infrastructure and staff were absolutely First Class. The location is good, it is closer to Bodrum airport than Bodrum town is. There are frequent minibuses into Bodrum and from there you can get to the Greek island of Kos with a 45 mins fast ferry.
cliffb
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Sorry LadyJessie... the link doesn't work for me. Could you check it please and repost. Thanks
Swagman
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Can anyone sugest which if any Turkish marinas can lift a wide multi for the winter.
At 25ft wide she won't fit in a travelhoist!! Thinking about crossing the Aegean next year, if I can stand the heat and the Meltemi.
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Hi,
I believe some out of the way places like Mersin or Iskandrun might have hauling facilities but its a long way east and perhaps not where I might leave a boat unattended for the winter.
Maybe others have suggestions on marinas / harbours further west?
JOHN
Can anyone sugest which if any Turkish marinas can lift a wide multi for the winter.
At 25ft wide she won't fit in a travelhoist!! Thinking about crossing the Aegean next year, if I can stand the heat and the Meltemi.
.
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Hi,
I believe some out of the way places like Mersin or Iskandrun might have hauling facilities but its a long way east and perhaps not where I might leave a boat unattended for the winter.
Maybe others have suggestions on marinas / harbours further west?
JOHN
Mr Cassandra
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Hi I have contacted Yalikavak Marina they are offering special offers of 30% off their prices. i have e-mail them a request for a minumum of I year stay, if good price, may have 3 year contract .I await a reply cheers bobt
LadyJessie
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Here is that link to Port Bodrum again: http://www.portbodrum.com/index2.asp
If that does not work, just type in www.portbodrum.com. That should do.
Regarding marinas further west: you hardly can't get any further west than Marmaris and Bodrum and I have seen some pretty big cats (think aircraft carrier) lifted there. Cats are pretty popular around here so the marinas are used to dealing with them.
If that does not work, just type in www.portbodrum.com. That should do.
Regarding marinas further west: you hardly can't get any further west than Marmaris and Bodrum and I have seen some pretty big cats (think aircraft carrier) lifted there. Cats are pretty popular around here so the marinas are used to dealing with them.
SeaVenture
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I need help with understanding these pricings, if you please. I went on the sites mentioned and tried to figure out how they price moorings. I came out with figures that boggle the mind--so I hope I'm doing something wrong. If not, we'll never be able to spend any time in a marina in Turkey.
Our boat is 50' on deck, 56' with bowsprit (and they ALWAYS seem to charge for the sprit), which seems to come to 17.0688 meters. It's 14 feet wide--4.2672 meters. As they square these things (I'm used to paying for length only), I came out with 72.84 meters squared--which, when multiplied by the numbers on their chart, seemed huge. Can you help me figure out how to convert this? I assume the prices they're giving are Euros, but I came out with something like 1311.03 Euros a month--I hope I'm wrong about that. Am I doing it correctly or not?
Thanks for any help you can give me. We're eager to see Turkey, and were hoping we could afford to stop at a marina there.
Our boat is 50' on deck, 56' with bowsprit (and they ALWAYS seem to charge for the sprit), which seems to come to 17.0688 meters. It's 14 feet wide--4.2672 meters. As they square these things (I'm used to paying for length only), I came out with 72.84 meters squared--which, when multiplied by the numbers on their chart, seemed huge. Can you help me figure out how to convert this? I assume the prices they're giving are Euros, but I came out with something like 1311.03 Euros a month--I hope I'm wrong about that. Am I doing it correctly or not?
Thanks for any help you can give me. We're eager to see Turkey, and were hoping we could afford to stop at a marina there.
LadyJessie
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Hi SeaVenture, would love to help you but it is a bit difficult without knowing what you are looking at. Let me explain the Turkish system as I understand it: yes, you are very often charged for "area" occupied. This is because there are so many cats in this area and only charging for length would not really be fair to the rest of us. So you take your length times your beam and you come up with an "area". Then you multiply this with a pricing factor that will be different depending on your length of stay, i.e. a dayrate is more than 30 days stay. You will often see a table in the price list and you have to make sure you pick the correct column corresponding to your desired stay. If you did indeed come up with 1300 euros for a month, then you have very probably looked in the wrong column. That does not sound like a price that anybody would charge around here. I would expect to pay between 100-200 euro per month for my 39 foot, depending on place and time of year.
In addition you should know this; price lists are usually just the start of the pricing discussion with the marina manager. That is the best you will do on short stays, but if you sign up for longer stays (usually more than a month) then the price could be negotiable. Again, this is depending on place and time of year, but you should always try to negotiate. The only marina I know that has a strict "price list only" policy is Yacht Marine in Marmaris. But they are also usually the lowest priced anyway so that makes sense.
In addition you should know this; price lists are usually just the start of the pricing discussion with the marina manager. That is the best you will do on short stays, but if you sign up for longer stays (usually more than a month) then the price could be negotiable. Again, this is depending on place and time of year, but you should always try to negotiate. The only marina I know that has a strict "price list only" policy is Yacht Marine in Marmaris. But they are also usually the lowest priced anyway so that makes sense.
Richard10002
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I came out with 72.84 meters squared
but I came out with something like 1311.03 Euros a month--I hope I'm wrong about that. Am I doing it correctly or not?
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That's what I get, equates to £30 per day, which may not be bad for High Season, but a bit rich for any other time of year.
I came out with 72.84 meters squared
but I came out with something like 1311.03 Euros a month--I hope I'm wrong about that. Am I doing it correctly or not?
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That's what I get, equates to £30 per day, which may not be bad for High Season, but a bit rich for any other time of year.
