alexg
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Italia a Yachts 10.98... Proper racing heritage (the 9.98 won the ORCi Worlds this year and has just been nominated for European Yacht of the Year).
I may be a little biased on the above though...
Cruising a racing boat
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Italia a Yachts 10.98... Proper racing heritage (the 9.98 won the ORCi Worlds this year and has just been nominated for European Yacht of the Year).
I may be a little biased on the above though...
DFL1010
Active member
Probably not the best photo to show off a boat! 9.98 seems fun, but the downwind polars are uninspiring.
How about the Akilaria 9,50? Or for more comfort, the Ker 33 shows promise.
Seajet
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A chap at my club had ' Red Shamrock ', a hot racer in her day; he happily tootled around the Channel with just his young wife as crew.
The biggest complaint I heard - from his father, an aircraft designer & long time sailor - after a lumpy cross Channel trip was that the boat had no saloon dining table.
Surely unless a boat is radical to the extreme/nuts category one can cruise it, maybe not around Patagonia but plenty of fun for the average family; if expecting a shower each for every person aboard, go on the Queen Mary...
The biggest complaint I heard - from his father, an aircraft designer & long time sailor - after a lumpy cross Channel trip was that the boat had no saloon dining table.
Surely unless a boat is radical to the extreme/nuts category one can cruise it, maybe not around Patagonia but plenty of fun for the average family; if expecting a shower each for every person aboard, go on the Queen Mary...
michael_w
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I took my Contesssa 33 on a 2-year Atlantic Circuit. Admittedly there was a fair bit of work to change her from a cruiser-racer to a blue water boat.
It was fun overtaking motorsailing Halberg Rassays
It was fun overtaking motorsailing Halberg Rassays
AIDY
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I took my Contesssa 33 on a 2-year Atlantic Circuit. Admittedly there was a fair bit of work to change her from a cruiser-racer to a blue water boat.
Remember you getting the contessa ready... We used to keep our moody opposite you on the middle pontoon at deacons at the time.
roblpm
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I took my Contesssa 33 on a 2-year Atlantic Circuit. Admittedly there was a fair bit of work to change her from a cruiser-racer to a blue water boat.
It was fun overtaking motorsailing Halberg Rassays
Thats the sort of story i am after, J109 to the Azores........ Sunfast 3200 summer in the med......
wotayottie
New member
Two key point in your post. First is "young" - the privations you are prepared to tolerate when 20 are unacceptable at 40. Youngsters have crossed the atlantic in 18ft boats but that doesnt make them a cruising boat in the views of 99% of sailors. The second is your reference to the table and the shower. Cruising in anything requires somewhere to eat with crew and somewhere to wash effectively.
roblpm
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I have been cruising for weeks at a time on a boat with no shower. Can usually find somewhere to pop in that has facilities?
Im 46 and I hope I can put up with some hardships!
RKJ is mid 70s i think? I wonder if his route de rhum open 60 had a shower?! Or a dining table.
So each to his own.
I like camping. My wife has just made us buy a huge motorhome so she can visit the facilities in the night. She won't be coming cruising!!
Seajet
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I'm 53 now and would happily cruise in an Osprey racing dinghy again like Dancrane - well at least I can say that from this chair, which come to think of it isn't all that comfy - ouchy hurty back ' where's the Co-Drydromol ?'
On second thoughts sleeping on a dinghy would be the end of me !
On second thoughts sleeping on a dinghy would be the end of me !
Resolution
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Ok now you are giving us info on what you might term cruising. If all you need is a bucket & chuck it boat, then that changes things. In my personal dictionary, cruising certainly includes a table round which the crew can gather for late night deep and meaningful discussions. These also require a wine cellar and a selection of real malts, without which one goes to bed far too early.
Now that we are based in the Med, a shower is not just a luxury but essential to avoid clogging the cushions up with salt crystals. And also to keeping the nasty niffs down. And with the eleven pm temperature still over 35 degrees and very dry, I envy the Oceanis next door which is running its air conditioning.
Still, at 46 you are young enough to tough it out . Pity about the wife?
roblpm
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Sounds great! I need both! Yes the wife is not keen hence the thoughts about racing. I think i can race a bit and not get divorced or do lots of cruising and will need a new wife!!
doug748
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A friend of mine used to cruise and race (gently) his J109, singlehanded. It always seemed a very comfortable boat in the marina, not lavish but not Spartan either. Most, longer, cross channel trips were a daylight affair for him. Cruising in company he would often keep up with only his main set
The year before he sold it he singlehanded around Britain, he was by that time well into his 70's.
lpdsn
New member
I still reckon the best fit for you would be to have a smallish boat (hence not too extortionately expensive) that you can race competitively, and charter every now and again in the Med with the wife.
roblpm
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Very nice of you but the wife will not sail with me in the med! She is stubbornly sure she will not go sailing!! Ever!! So I may as well get something eventually that I can race, single hand and cruise in an unluxurious fashion.
J109s seem to be relatively affordable as people move on to new things?? Some with a decent set of sails as well. This is all 5 years hence anyway so things may have changed in the market.
JPK 1010, J97, Sunfast 3200, A31 all slightly smaller and more expensive!!!!
roblpm
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Ps I really need to be up the fleet in my current boat first before spending money on something else!!!!
Resolution
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My wife hated racing 100 percent and is still reluctant to pull strings or steer - but she does enjoy living in "the floating cottage" . We always have to have others on board to actually sail the boat.
Suggest you analyse just what turns your wife off about the boat and see what you can compromise.
Much cheaper than a new wife........
roblpm
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She hates the heeling. I really don't want a cat. Though maybe chartering one might work. Its a catch 22 situation, divorce = no boat, marriage = not enough sailing!! Hence the racing!
Birdseye
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Did we once meet in Ilfracombe yacht club bar? I sat one chai away from one end of the bar and a chap sailing in a small boat came and sat in the end chair. He'd been away from home for a month. I moved down a chair and he did too. I moved down another and damn me he followed. Long before I got near the last chair I could stand it no longer and moved away from the bar. He had a no-go zone round him.
Birdseye
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Snap! When I sold the Prout cat I sold "her boat". So now we motor sail a fin keel in summer with swmbo and I race her in winter with the lads.
roblpm
Well-known member
Well I have learned my lesson. Sail downwind. Motor upwind. But i think it's not a goer any way round!
