Crown Estates flogging off the Western Solent for wind farms.
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Channel Ribs
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Potentially more efficient, no one has yet deployed a full scale array and so there are no hard figures for comparison.
And no, tidal turbines do not chop fish up. Certainly not the open hydro design which has a hole through the middle.
As for wind farms destroying the view from a beach. That makes no sense, surely for that to be true 100% of people visiting the beach would have to utterly hate the sight of wind farms on the horizon??
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Twister_Ken
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Me, I like the view of windmills at sea. Makes the horizon more interesting.
Off the end of the Wirral.
Off the end of the Wirral.
Jeremy_W
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Its called the Crown Estate coz legally all the property belongs to the Crown. On accession, the monarch gave up their rights to the income from the estate in return for the civil list. CE net income is about £300Mill pa compared with a Civil List totalling about £8Mill pa - a great deal for the taxpayer and a pretty poor one for the monarch![/QUOTE]
Yes but the State takes the responsibility of paying domestic civil servants from the Crown under the deal. I am guessing that that works out at far more than £200M (plus £100M for the cost of the Royal Family). Prince Charles, allegedly, plans not to sign over Crown Estates income when he takes the throne. This could be interesting!
Yes but the State takes the responsibility of paying domestic civil servants from the Crown under the deal. I am guessing that that works out at far more than £200M (plus £100M for the cost of the Royal Family). Prince Charles, allegedly, plans not to sign over Crown Estates income when he takes the throne. This could be interesting!
Channel Ribs
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At the very least people might realise that the Civil List is not a hand-out?
I meant the view of ones stationed on land.At sea I would be more concerned about running into the bloody things.
Really I wonder what the French would call it?
Coaster
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I would have thought putting such devices on land rather defeated their purpose.
Turbines at sea should be sited deep enough to prevent any contact with shipping, and certainly far too deep to affect leisure craft.
Ubergeekian
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They'll use relatively low speed reaction turbines (ie big fans) rather than impulse turbines (pelton wheels). No problem to fish: in the Galloway Hydros power stations salmon have been going up via fish ladders and down through the turbines since the 30's. I expect their little memories get about as far as "What the hell was tha..."
Ubergeekian
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Myths. Sure, there is a relatively small cost in keeping other systems as spinning or warm reserve, but it makes very little difference to the overall cost of the energy. Wind turbines repay their energy input in 8 months or so and their financial investment after a year: any coal, gas or uranium they save after that is a win.
Ubergeekian
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When the Crown Estates started levying charges for moorings in the 80s - for which charges, of course, they provide(d) absolutely nothing - various groups tried to challenge them in the courts. They couldn't, because the Queen and therefore the Crown Estates are above the law.
Coaster
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I understand that George III gave up the income from the Crown Estate circa 1760, in return for an income known as the Civil List. That seems to have been a pretty good deal for Parliament. The current Civil List annual payment is £7.9M (unchanged for 10 years) whilst the Crown Estate income is about £200M.
Members of the royal family now seem to have nothing to do with the Crown Estate. The latter is effectively part of government.
saltyrob
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With the wind farms cometh the pylons
Here in Suffolk ,National Grid want to construct an overhead powerline with 45 metre high pylons to distribute electricity from the off shore windfarms.Proposed routes will desecrate unspoilt countyside.
Rob
Here in Suffolk ,National Grid want to construct an overhead powerline with 45 metre high pylons to distribute electricity from the off shore windfarms.Proposed routes will desecrate unspoilt countyside.
Rob
Channel Ribs
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That does not stop republicans from needing someone to blame for all the bad things.
Saving the tax payer £180M weighs lightly against the outrage felt by riding in a golden carriage once a lifetime.
Channel Ribs
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Poppycock.
The Treasury, The Church, Various Universities & Various Pharmaceutical Companies are the predominant landowners in England.
webcraft
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Pylons are a necessary evil unless all electricity is generated locally. here in Scotland there is uproar over the new Beauly-Denny line with 200ft high pylons traversing some of Scotland's wildest areas. However, it is an upgrade to an existing line and essential if electricity from new renewables is going to get to the rest of the National Grid.
Would you prefer to do without electricity?
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dk
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Maybe we should all just generate our own electricity - that would eliminate the ugly pylons and stuff. And when the windmills stop turning and the sun goes in we'll all realise how much we have been wasting and start being more frugal with energy.
Nice little diversion but does not address the original point that the Monarchy is above the Law.
I always believed that no body is above the Law.Simply staggering!