AH a man after my own heart ^.Not just electricity but many of the worlds resources are being over used.Can we control our own selfishness?I doubt it.
Crown Estates flogging off the Western Solent for wind farms.
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AH a man after my own heart ^.Not just electricity but many of the worlds resources are being over used.Can we control our own selfishness?I doubt it.
What gets me about all this is the way 'The Crown Estates' cheerfully flog off the sea bed specificaly for wind farm production & cause all this furorer......Is this the Monarchy benefitting again at the ordinary tax payers expence?
Stemar
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Maybe, but they have other unforseen consequences due to intermittency I was never entirely at ease with wind power, but this scares me.
Pinnacle
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No, not at all....all of the "surplus" that the CE makes in a year is handed over to the Treasury.
savageseadog
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The interest in the Crown Estates were traded for the civil list payments to the Royal Family. The money generated by the Crown Estates go directly to the Treasury, in other words Alastair Darling (or is it Gordon Brown?)
The Crown Estates operate in a similar way to a trust, the sole brief is to raise as much money as it possibly can. It would in fact be a breach of law to do anything else. Although answerable to the Treasury or government as its financial beneficiary they are not answerable in any way as to how the money is made. The general result is that greed is good and anything else is not allowed.
KINGFISHER 9
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Someone came up with a plan for a barrage across the Severn estuary ... seems an obvious place with the tides they get up there ... I think the bunny-huggers put paid to that before they even saw any plans. Would have made it a better place to sail as well.
Coaster
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For those of you based in the Solent, can you imagine how inconvenient a pair of barriers would be, linking the East and West ends of the Isle of Wight with the mainland? A Bristol Channel barrier would have much the same effect for that area.
I would hate a BC barrier. Whoever can do so, please build and install undersea tidal turbines. As far as I can see these would have little effect on fauna and flora, no effect on boats, and will reliably generate electricity every day.
Sybarite
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Limitless resources of Uranium too on Pandora...
John
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No, not at all....all of the "surplus" that the CE makes in a year is handed over to the Treasury.
Sort of like when they take out all the high salaries & expenses then paid to the executives/other top employees? (In a similar way a lot of charities have very highly paid top management).
Maybe I am a little bit cynical but I can't even understand why then it should continue to be called the Crown Estates,you would think that it could be retitled the Public Land Registry Department or something would'nt you?
Having Prince Charles owning The Dutchy of Cornwall & stuff like that dos'nt exactly dispel my suspicions.....Our ancestors fought & died for many of the privileges that these people now enjoy.......It ai'nt right.Something like 90% of this Country is owned by about 2% of the people according to a television program I watched not so long ago
Also not unsightly spoiling the view.Agree completely.
GlennG
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Think of them as fish sieves; surely any fish in the water will be liquidised when they swim through the turbines. Or does it not have any effect on the fish?
What's wrong with a wind farm anyway? We all use the electricity, so it's useful to be reminded of where it comes from.
I don't suppose the blades turn very fast & the fish can get out the way.Like others have said the wind is intermittent & the damn things spoil the view & apparently make a horrible racket.For my money it is spoiling lovely landscape that swings the balance.
Pinnacle
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st599
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As quoted above the intermittency problem makes them a non-starter for the UK. We don't cover a large enough land-mass to be able to build enough geographically diverse farms to guarantee our electricity supply. So we need thermal (nuclear or fossil fuel) backups to ensure we can meet demand. And as these aren't running at 100% load, they will have more wear and cost a fortune to bring online when demand is required.
Nuclear is the answer, as has been said by the IET et. al. for years but has been hi-jacked by well meaning greens.
clouty
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The lead time to get a new nuclear plant onstream is longer than that for a windfarm. Never mind the real cost negatives of nuclear. Of course the Queen would be pleased though - I hear she has a lot of uranium to sell.
Intermittancy (the variability of supply from wind turbines and solar) can be tackled in many ways, pumped water storage being one well proven method. Any engineers out there think it might be possible to use hydrogen manufacture as a form of surplus electricity storage?
Culling the humans is unlikely to be popular politically, better to aim for population stability by encouraging security, so people don't need to insure their old age by having lots of children. Of course, we could each, unilaterally, remove one human unit by giving up our own lives for the good of all...
A large deep-water windfarm could make an interesting sailing slalom course - complete with fluky winds, and plenty of wide-spaced fixed markers
Look on the bright side 
Intermittancy (the variability of supply from wind turbines and solar) can be tackled in many ways, pumped water storage being one well proven method. Any engineers out there think it might be possible to use hydrogen manufacture as a form of surplus electricity storage?
Culling the humans is unlikely to be popular politically, better to aim for population stability by encouraging security, so people don't need to insure their old age by having lots of children. Of course, we could each, unilaterally, remove one human unit by giving up our own lives for the good of all...
A large deep-water windfarm could make an interesting sailing slalom course - complete with fluky winds, and plenty of wide-spaced fixed markers
Look on the bright side
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Twister_Ken
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I thought it was Phil Popadopalous-Pantechnicon.
"Legally all the property belongs to the Crown."
OK how about this Duchy of Cornwall business.How come that escaped being passed onto "Crown Estates."Prince Charles does make a few bob out of that does he not?
(I would like to know about all the buildings & property they own around this Country & abroad as a result of our exploits during the days of Empire etc.....& of course land,has anybody got to the bottom of it?I bet it would make interesting reading).
