sighmoon
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Dylan, you're not planning to destroy The Slug for ratings are you?
Crash test boat films - do they influence your magazine buying habits?
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Strathglass
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I currently subscribe to PBO and ST. In spite of all the repeat articles.
I must say that I have bought (at full price) all the recent YM with the articles on the crash test boat.
I am now at the decision point - Do I or do I not take out a subscription to YM?
I mainly cruise now and YM is more akin to my sailing.
BUT
Why is virtually every article assume that people with boats are extremely well off and have an infinite disposable income?
For example I see that the pension funding provision for RYA officials seems to have increased by an amazing percentage in the last accounts.
No doubt this can be justified on paper but where does the money come from? - From the 'rich' yachties?
Yet most businesses and even the government are struggling to survive let alone retain pension funding.
Sorry for the thread drift.
I must say that I have enjoyed the crash test series and found it most informative.
I must say that I have bought (at full price) all the recent YM with the articles on the crash test boat.
I am now at the decision point - Do I or do I not take out a subscription to YM?
I mainly cruise now and YM is more akin to my sailing.
BUT
Why is virtually every article assume that people with boats are extremely well off and have an infinite disposable income?
For example I see that the pension funding provision for RYA officials seems to have increased by an amazing percentage in the last accounts.
No doubt this can be justified on paper but where does the money come from? - From the 'rich' yachties?
Yet most businesses and even the government are struggling to survive let alone retain pension funding.
Sorry for the thread drift.
I must say that I have enjoyed the crash test series and found it most informative.
Sandy
Well-known member
I must have missed the adverts!
All the tests have been well thought through and very, very informative. I have to admit that I've not bought an extra magazine because of them, but I read most things online.
Blueboatman
Well-known member
I think its great, its genuinely innovative, it moves the YM format along probably a whole generation.
Be a shame if Dylan feels compelled to bXgger up the slug,tho...
And finally, would suggest any and all specific ideas for following on with new editorial ideas be sent to Mr Snooks and not published in a general forum?
Be a shame if Dylan feels compelled to bXgger up the slug,tho...
And finally, would suggest any and all specific ideas for following on with new editorial ideas be sent to Mr Snooks and not published in a general forum?
dylanwinter
Active member
aha
I think there is no harm in ideas being in the public domain
actually I think ideas should be in the public domain
and....
why would it be a shame if I had a bigger boat?
I think that it would be nice to be able to stand up occasionally
I think 45 foot should be enough
mind you.... I think there is no risk of that happening in the forseeable future so the sluggish progress will continue
Dylan
I think its great, its genuinely innovative, it moves the YM format along probably a whole generation.
Be a shame if Dylan feels compelled to bXgger up the slug,tho...
And finally, would suggest any and all specific ideas for following on with new editorial ideas be sent to Mr Snooks and not published in a general forum?
I think there is no harm in ideas being in the public domain
actually I think ideas should be in the public domain
and....
why would it be a shame if I had a bigger boat?
I think that it would be nice to be able to stand up occasionally
I think 45 foot should be enough
mind you.... I think there is no risk of that happening in the forseeable future so the sluggish progress will continue
Dylan
jamesjermain
Active member
Just a quicky to put credit where it's due.
A lot of threads speak of IPC and 'The publishers' and 'The Management'.
I would just like to say that the series is the Editor's project which he has created with his excellent editorial team including Chris Beeson and Snooks.
Obviously he had to get the approval of 'Management' for the finance but, as I understand it, Paul himself had much of the finance in place outside the normal editorial budget.
It has been a brilliant series - probably the best and most ambitious in YM's history. I wouldn't like to think of Paul easing into retirement next year without getting full credit.
A lot of threads speak of IPC and 'The publishers' and 'The Management'.
I would just like to say that the series is the Editor's project which he has created with his excellent editorial team including Chris Beeson and Snooks.
Obviously he had to get the approval of 'Management' for the finance but, as I understand it, Paul himself had much of the finance in place outside the normal editorial budget.
It has been a brilliant series - probably the best and most ambitious in YM's history. I wouldn't like to think of Paul easing into retirement next year without getting full credit.
Richard Shead
Slipped Anchor
And it will be on display at London next to the Black and White Bar complete with smoke machine and flashing lights...
It will make a cracking feature...
It will make a cracking feature...
prv
Well-known member
Has definitely made me think about buying YM. Sadly however, at about the same time, all three places I used to occasionally buy it have stopped stocking sailing magazines. This is in Southampton, which you'd think would have enough of an audience if anywhere does.
Pete
Pete
Fantasie 19
Well-known member
No... only because YM doesn't really do the type of sailing I do - can't afford/own the boats they feature
....and stupid though it sounds, I found the boat destruction video's a bit..... errrm.... sad.... hate seeing boats broken up.....
island163
Member
I had been thinking of cancelling my YM sub but the Crash Test Boat features couple with the great videos changed my mind. I now think that YM is the best of the sailing mags that I currently read.
I now think that YM is the best of the sailing mags that I currently read.
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dylanwinter
Active member
already doing it - but slowly
given the length of ktl there is now a visible decline in the condition of the slug
(and self come to that)
it faces another winter hanging on a mooring
So in a way I am slowly destroying it
but I love the winter sailing
I would like to suggest to any east coasters who fancy having a go they should consider doing it on the Alde, Ore and Butley. Here in Wells sailing opportunities highly controlled by the tides.
Dylan
given the length of ktl there is now a visible decline in the condition of the slug
(and self come to that)
it faces another winter hanging on a mooring
So in a way I am slowly destroying it
but I love the winter sailing
I would like to suggest to any east coasters who fancy having a go they should consider doing it on the Alde, Ore and Butley. Here in Wells sailing opportunities highly controlled by the tides.
Dylan
estarzinger
New member
I agree. I loved the videos. It was a brilliant idea.
I suspect it shows the way forward for 'magazines' and 'books' - tons of embedded video. Video is just so much more powerful communication than still pictures, which are equally so much more powerful than simple written words.
dylanwinter
Active member
aaaagh!
where does that leave the written word?
I still think that prose can be very powerful
especially when it comes to travel
words can tell you what a place feels like
which can be more powerful than the visuals
well written technical items can be covered very efficiently with words
sometimes video is a bit slow in delivering the facts
D
where does that leave the written word?
I still think that prose can be very powerful
especially when it comes to travel
words can tell you what a place feels like
which can be more powerful than the visuals
well written technical items can be covered very efficiently with words
sometimes video is a bit slow in delivering the facts
D
Enya
New member
I saw one video at the Soton Boat Show. I am not sure that it added to the magazine content but different people respond to different media. I subscribe to YM but am thinking of unsubscribing to one of the other mags. YM is possibly the best of the usual 3 but PBO has a useful niche on the practical side. I am tempted by Yachts and Yachting with its race orientation. I feel that Club Cruiser racing is ignored by the main three mags but Y and Y is a bit advanced.
I think the Crash Boat series is indicative of a go-ahead approach in YM and I will be sticking with it.
I think the Crash Boat series is indicative of a go-ahead approach in YM and I will be sticking with it.
GrahamM376
New member
+1 Too much money for little content.
dylanwinter
Active member
nothing like a magazine
I love he web
I love videos
they can both enhance your sailing
but there is nothing quite like settling down ona train, or a comfy chair by the fire or on the boat and opening a sailing magazine
a glasss of scotch enhances the experience
Dylan
I love he web
I love videos
they can both enhance your sailing
but there is nothing quite like settling down ona train, or a comfy chair by the fire or on the boat and opening a sailing magazine
a glasss of scotch enhances the experience
Dylan
prv
Well-known member
If video is so much better than text, how come I'm buying more books now than I ever did instead of just slumping in front of the telly (or Youtube) all the time?
Different things for different circumstances.
Pete
mihtjel
New member
The series has made me consider buying all the 2011 back issues of YM - but it doesn't seem like YM offers such a feature, at least not for us foreigners, so unless someone here can tell me how, I'm not likely to...
I'd prefer to pick up a magazine once I know what's in it, rather than subscribe in advance, in particular considering that they're £6/ea here even when subscribing.
KellysEye
Active member
I happened to read the magazine when they holed the boat, basically they couldn't fix it. They missed the best way to do it and I wrote letter about to fix a hole with the green and white under water epoxy sticks that you mix with a wet hand, rather than wasting time mixing two part epoxy with a stick. It wasn't publshed, I wasn't impressed.
sighmoon
Active member
I did buy a YM because of the series, but it's £10 here, so mostly I just read the ensuing discussion / watched the videos here.
I only read them off the boat to help me pretend I'm on it.
I only read them off the boat to help me pretend I'm on it.