Cornish Crabber

[cutofherjib]

My friends are trying to sell their Cornish Crabber, but have had no success at all. Is there a market for these?

 

[KINGFISHER 9]

There should be ...... have you seen the price of a new one?

 

[prv]

How long have they been trying? Boat sales don't necessarily happen quickly.

Secondhand Crabbers do sell, and for surprisingly high prices. But you do have to wait for the buyer to come along.

Got a link to the advert?

Pete

 

[cutofherjib]

It has been up for sale for about nine months. They have already purchased a brand new shrimper to replace the crabber. I can see from the posts what some of the problems might be. I will try and put a link to the advert. Cheers.

 

[Resolution]

It has been up for sale for about nine months. They have already purchased a brand new shrimper to replace the crabber. I can see from the posts what some of the problems might be. I will try and put a link to the advert. Cheers.

I'm lunching on Friday with a mate who has just sold his Shrimper and bought a Crabber instead. Hoping his wife will join him now he has Facilities. He's been based at Bosham and used a local chap to help sell the shrimper. Said he was very competent and successful.
Where is your friends' crabber?

 

[cutofherjib]

It is in Southwold. Unfortunately he did not like the toilet on board and he replaced it with a porta potty. Not a good move if you ask me.

 

[Ubergeekian]

My friends are trying to sell their Cornish Crabber, but have had no success at all. Is there a market for these?

Which one - 17, 22 or 24? If he is going to a Shrimper I'm guessing 17.

A pal of mine bought one of them last year, and took quite a while to find one. With enough advertising I am sure your pals will find a buyer.

 

[cutofherjib]

It is a 24.

 

[prv]

Well if you can't find her on the Web by now, I guess the potential buyers can't either

Pete

 

[cutofherjib]

It took me about 15 seconds to find it. What does the panel think?

http://www.rightboat.com/Cornish-Crabber-24-19/boat-12094802/

 

[Ubergeekian]

I'd quite like a Crabber but I would not want to pay what people are likely to expect for one.

I agree. My pal's CC17 is very nicely made - but ten flipping grand for a second hand one in fair nick? The new CC29 is quite nice too, in a rather basic sort of way, but costs 60% more in real (RPI) terms than my Victoria 26 did when new - and Victorias were blinking expensive.

 

[cutofherjib]

I agree. My pal's CC17 is very nicely made - but ten flipping grand for a second hand one in fair nick? The new CC29 is quite nice too, in a rather basic sort of way, but costs 60% more in real (RPI) terms than my Victoria 26 did when new - and Victorias were blinking expensive.

What do you think of this one, and the price?

http://www.rightboat.com/Cornish-Crabber-24-19/boat-12094802/

 

[Ubergeekian]

What do you think of this one, and the price?

http://www.rightboat.com/Cornish-Crabber-24-19/boat-12094802/

Looks OK, but a horrendous price. It's a sixteen year old 24 footer which costs as much as four reasonable Centaurs, three excellent Centaurs or a Victoria 26 and a third.

Mind you, Boatshed have a 2004 CC22 at fifty grand which is under offer

 

[TQA]

Waaaaay overpriced

 

[Seajet]

This member of the panel thinks silly money for vastly over-rated boats, the option of a well equipped Contessa 32 for similar or even less money is a no-brainer !

The recession will see a few things come home to roost, unseamanlike follies like Shrimpers etc - no guardrails, inboard diesels on 19' and Crabbers...being a good example.

 

[DownWest]

The recession will see a few things come home to roost, unseamanlike follies like Shrimpers etc - no guardrails, inboard diesels on 19' and Crabbers...being a good example.

Bit strong SJ, what do you base your opinions on? CC Shimpers are popular, well made boats. Ones with i/b diesels fetch better prices than the o/b ones.
A

 

[whipper_snapper]

This member of the panel thinks silly money for vastly over-rated boats, the option of a well equipped Contessa 32 for similar or even less money is a no-brainer !

The recession will see a few things come home to roost, unseamanlike follies like Shrimpers etc - no guardrails, inboard diesels on 19' and Crabbers...being a good example.

If you think that is mad, take a look at the Norfolk Gypsy. They make Cornish Crabbers look cheap and nasty. They are delightful boats (19', with an inboard diesel and no guardrails) I owned one for 2 years and did some fairly extreme sailing for such a small boat. In the end I sold it because I was terrified of how much money I had tied up in it and every scratch and bump gave me heart failure. But I still miss its delightful lines and simplicity.

 

[mainmarine]

I run www.cornishcrabbers.org you can advertise Crabbers for sale on the site.

 

[Seajet]

I'm basing my opinions ( my own, wot it is ) on the simple fact that these boats appeal much more to novices than anyone with experience; they have their place, and the world would be a poorer place without them, like some sports cars and indeed glamourous women, lovely to look at if someone else is paying for the upkeep, but I wouldn't place Cornish crabbers or Shrimpers on the same Crumpet Scale as a GT40 or Elle Macpherson !

An experienced chap - in my opinion - might remark that centuries of sailing evolution and lost lives have found guardrails are a good idea, and should not be dispensed with for cosmetic purposes.

A diesel engine in anything much under 26' is a huge weight and cost penalty; the ease of a press-button start is again appealing to novices, an experienced sailor will go for an outboard in a well ( transom mounting is a complete no-no ! Weight in the wrong place, the prop' is liable to pitching out of the water, when tending to it tools and crew can or will go into the oggin, etc ) and an inboard is also a serious pain re. maintenance ( including in real time if one is in shallow water or if using a drying mooring where an intake may be blocked ) compared to an outboard one can take home for the week if necessary or the winter.

Wooden spars are inefficient re. strength / weight and like other cosmetic brightwork require a surprising amount of maintenance.

In my view, a typical Shrimper / Crabber owner will be a retired Admiral with more money than sense aiming at pottering around a harbour,with just enough judgement to avoid a Newbridge boat but not enough to buy something capable !

 

[Twister_Ken]

Overpriced. You could buy the best used Twister on the market and have change for that money.

And you'd literally have a go-anywhere boat.