Twister_Ken
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So the Germans are the ones who'll make much money out of sorting this out. Missed opportunity, UK plc.
Container vessel abandoned mid atlantic.
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penfold
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If she's safe enough for Sir Humphrey, she's safe enough to drop anchor in Falmouth or wherever and be arrested by the MCA as unsafe and needing immediate repairs!
Stork_III
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German owned ship, why should it not go there.
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MSC Flaminia to Be Towed to German Anchorage
Ship and cargo to be inspected before destination port is selected
The fire-damaged container ship MSC Flaminia will be towed to a sheltered anchorage in German waters for evaluation before it is towed to a yet-undetermined port, the vessel’s owner said.
Reederei NSB said the ship and its cargo would undergo an initial inspection by British, Dutch and French experts on behalf of the U.K. Maritime and Coastguard Agency when the vessel approaches the English Channel this weekend.
The ship then would be towed to German waters in an operation coordinated by the German Central Command for Maritime Emergencies. At the anchorage, firefighters, chemists and engineers will examine the vessel for hazards before a decision is made on a port.
The MSC Flaminia is expected to reach the sheltered area in German waters during the week of Sept. 3. German officials estimate the complete salvage operation would take up to two months.
“We are glad that after the assignment to the Central Command for Maritime Emergencies, the salvage of our MSC Flaminia is finally proceeding. To us, this indicates that our company’s philosophy is right and the German flag pays off,” Helmut Ponath, CEO of Reederei NSB, said at a press conference in Bremerhaven.
The MSC Flaminia and its accompanying group of tugs were approximately 350 nautical miles off the entrance to the English Channel on Tuesday.
A fire and subsequent explosion on July 14 forced the crew to abandon ship in the mid-Atlantic, about 1,000 miles from land. One seafarer died and another is missing. Three others were injured, including one who remains in critical condition.
The accident happened while the ship was en route from Charleston to Bremerhaven via Antwerp and Felixstowe.
The ship’s owner has declared general average, meaning losses will be apportioned among all parties with cargo on the ship. The MSC Flaminia, chartered to Mediterranean Shippking Co., has capacity of 6,732 20-foot-equivalent units.
http://www.joc.com/container-lines/msc-flaminia-be-towed-german-anchorage
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Ship and cargo to be inspected before destination port is selected
The fire-damaged container ship MSC Flaminia will be towed to a sheltered anchorage in German waters for evaluation before it is towed to a yet-undetermined port, the vessel’s owner said.
Reederei NSB said the ship and its cargo would undergo an initial inspection by British, Dutch and French experts on behalf of the U.K. Maritime and Coastguard Agency when the vessel approaches the English Channel this weekend.
The ship then would be towed to German waters in an operation coordinated by the German Central Command for Maritime Emergencies. At the anchorage, firefighters, chemists and engineers will examine the vessel for hazards before a decision is made on a port.
The MSC Flaminia is expected to reach the sheltered area in German waters during the week of Sept. 3. German officials estimate the complete salvage operation would take up to two months.
“We are glad that after the assignment to the Central Command for Maritime Emergencies, the salvage of our MSC Flaminia is finally proceeding. To us, this indicates that our company’s philosophy is right and the German flag pays off,” Helmut Ponath, CEO of Reederei NSB, said at a press conference in Bremerhaven.
The MSC Flaminia and its accompanying group of tugs were approximately 350 nautical miles off the entrance to the English Channel on Tuesday.
A fire and subsequent explosion on July 14 forced the crew to abandon ship in the mid-Atlantic, about 1,000 miles from land. One seafarer died and another is missing. Three others were injured, including one who remains in critical condition.
The accident happened while the ship was en route from Charleston to Bremerhaven via Antwerp and Felixstowe.
The ship’s owner has declared general average, meaning losses will be apportioned among all parties with cargo on the ship. The MSC Flaminia, chartered to Mediterranean Shippking Co., has capacity of 6,732 20-foot-equivalent units.
http://www.joc.com/container-lines/msc-flaminia-be-towed-german-anchorage
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Plomong
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Looking more and more like there is something fishy, either known or unknown, in the cargo.
Plomong
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Might it be that SOSREP, and others, wish to decide whether or not to allow the ship to enter UK territorial waters? I guess it is called Due Diligence.
Will she pass through La Manche - or be routed round the north of the UK? Anybody know?
Habebty
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Why, what do you think it is?
Personally, I reckon it's just leaking standard chemical containers which could pose a health/pollution hazard due to their parlous condition after a serious fire.
onesea
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Over Cautious Paranoia..
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After seeing those photo's, I look forward with interest to seeing how the Germans get her fixed in 2 months...
Giblets
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All three tugs now showing 35 miles due south of The Lizard.
mparrish
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position and direction ?
And now seem to be going in circles south of the lizard !
And now seem to be going in circles south of the lizard !
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Frankie-H
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It's not a problem. It has been towed outside of the environment.
Brilliant. Thanks for posting that. We need a good laugh from time to time.
robertj
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Being involved in these operations since 1979 (now retired 4yrs) there won't be anything sinister onboard other than standard poollutants, of chemical or fuel etc.
The French experts I have witnessed on a few occasions turn up with a comprehensive chemical kit, they interrogate the skipper then fly back to France.
The next instructions are usually that the salvors are not permitted to close the French coast at all.
This is usually followed by high end discussions where someone has to make a dicision (which is as one can imagine almost impossible) as where it should go.
In the past ships were then towed into Falmouth for their Specialised ship firefighting teams to start extinguishing the fire alongside or in carrick roads.
The problem now is as I believe that ship firefighting at sea has been withdrawn in Cornwall due to lack of funds (surprise suprise) so again someone high up has to make another dicision on whether to allow it alongside to be tackled.
Can you see the picture evolving nothing sinister in the cargo just good old bureaucratic red tape lol.
The French experts I have witnessed on a few occasions turn up with a comprehensive chemical kit, they interrogate the skipper then fly back to France.
The next instructions are usually that the salvors are not permitted to close the French coast at all.
This is usually followed by high end discussions where someone has to make a dicision (which is as one can imagine almost impossible) as where it should go.
In the past ships were then towed into Falmouth for their Specialised ship firefighting teams to start extinguishing the fire alongside or in carrick roads.
The problem now is as I believe that ship firefighting at sea has been withdrawn in Cornwall due to lack of funds (surprise suprise) so again someone high up has to make another dicision on whether to allow it alongside to be tackled.
Can you see the picture evolving nothing sinister in the cargo just good old bureaucratic red tape lol.
sarabande
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the original event of spontaneous ignition, followed by those spectacular pics of pyrotechnics, leads one to think otherwise.
It's a good Lounge hypothesis anyway
It's a good Lounge hypothesis anyway
Giblets
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Thanks for the info, robertj.
I now notice that two of the tugs are showing destination as Falmouth on their AIS.
I now notice that two of the tugs are showing destination as Falmouth on their AIS.
Giblets
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MSC Flaminia now showing on AIS due south of The Lizard. Tugs are making a course of approx 075deg at a speed of 0.6knts
Honey
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Strange course
They seem to be following a strange course at the moment. Anyone know why?
They seem to be following a strange course at the moment. Anyone know why?
