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Oh dear! What would you have done if you were in charge on the bridge? I have no idea, by the way, so not a holier than thou comment!
Old Harry
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PilotWolf
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Several post on this already in different sub forums.
Looms like he is going hard astern, especially given the black smoke.
I know nothing of these ships but guessing maybe flyby wire failed?
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Looms like he is going hard astern, especially given the black smoke.
I know nothing of these ships but guessing maybe flyby wire failed?
W.
mjcoon
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Of what? A diesel? Or gas turbine? Sounds a brave thing to be doing, even with rubber gloves on...
Mike.
Old Harry
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Looked like ahead to me, lots of propwash due to "light ship"
Portland Billy
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Looks like a severe case of pilot error. Was she really intending to berth at that jetty with that amount of freeboard?.!
PilotWolf
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Indeed, as mention in Post No 2!
cherod
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wouldnt like to be the crane driver
Frank Holden
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It doesn't look that windy... however ...with the benefit of hindsight.... I would have called for a few more tugs before trying to leave the berth.
Even when empty - especially when empty - those ships have a truly massive windage.
Frank Holden
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Back from walking my dogs...
There is more wind there than I first thought... maybe it was not so fresh when she was lifted off the berth.
Sadly the die is cast before you leave the berth and and there is nothing you can really do to to improve your ongoing employment prospects when it turns to custard.
He could have pulled the sticks back.... straightened her up... and laid her alongside in front of those pink portainer cranes..... using the coaster as a fender....
There is more wind there than I first thought... maybe it was not so fresh when she was lifted off the berth.
Sadly the die is cast before you leave the berth and and there is nothing you can really do to to improve your ongoing employment prospects when it turns to custard.
He could have pulled the sticks back.... straightened her up... and laid her alongside in front of those pink portainer cranes..... using the coaster as a fender....
Pete7
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I like the way he appears to reverse to get the crane he missed on the first pass. Why was he going at warp speed.
Frank Holden
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Trying to get more forward movement than sideways movement....
Putting the engine astern at the last moment was to stop her running up the back of a ship in a further berth.
Old Harry
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I would assume in order to take on box`s she need to berth
JumbleDuck
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My favourite crane video is this. It demonstrates beautifully the phlegmatic calm and temperance of language for which Ulstermen are justly famed.
cherod
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would have had to be a pretty slick crane job with her going at that speed
cherod
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" dead on bally " . watched those cranes sway in the wind, scary stuff , not for me ,, all the sheds have gone since i was last there
grandpaboat
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I have now watched s few clips of this incident. One of them includes an AIS track showing her coming into port. Another puzzling aspect is that the two tugs have lines on her at what looks like a significant speed for a ship still slowing down on her arrival.
Although there is significant turbulence from the prop it appears to be on account of being lightship as I can't see any astern thrust. However this is contradicted by the black exhaust smoke which would indicate a heavy engine overload as the turbo blowers tried to catch up with the fuel in a heavy astern movement.
The rudder appears to remain in the starboard position throughout as if the steering has failed with the propellor revs constant in what looks like ahead as she also continues to move ahead even after the crane has toppled on the after end.
Steering and propulsion on ships are completely separate so I don't understand how both appeared to remain constant throughout.
So is it a catastrophic failure of bridge teamwork or machinery.
Although there is significant turbulence from the prop it appears to be on account of being lightship as I can't see any astern thrust. However this is contradicted by the black exhaust smoke which would indicate a heavy engine overload as the turbo blowers tried to catch up with the fuel in a heavy astern movement.
The rudder appears to remain in the starboard position throughout as if the steering has failed with the propellor revs constant in what looks like ahead as she also continues to move ahead even after the crane has toppled on the after end.
Steering and propulsion on ships are completely separate so I don't understand how both appeared to remain constant throughout.
So is it a catastrophic failure of bridge teamwork or machinery.
