Confessions of a diesel tank abuser.

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Yes. I've done it. Woe is me. So for perspective, these events took place in Gibraltar that has zero tax on marine diesel...

Two involve me indirectly, the third yeah, mea culpa.

The first time I was involved in a fuel free incident, I was leaving Marina Bay on a Bavaria 37. Inbound was a large 60 something Sunseeker that had arrived with skipper and two female crew....to get diesel prior to the next few days charges out of Sotogrande. The costs make it worth it. So, of course as he rounded into the channel at the end of the runway, e for enough became e for empty with a breeze blowing him onto rocks. Hey, great exercise for crew, took him under tow, quite hard yakka on a small yacht progress slow. As we were inching away from the runway, Air Traffic Control got agitated and called over the very large speakers to keep clear....exactly what we were trying to do. A police rib turned up but refused to help without a mayday call but did radio at and told them to wind their necks in. So all good, approached CEPSA fuel dock, skipper of motor boat says can we go to the Shell Dock, we got an account with them. Err OK. So job done, skips gave us 200 euros.....didn't need to do that.....and one of my crew, aussie, got the phone number of one of the girls.

Second incident. Friend of mine plus crew on a Jenneau 45 were inbound to the Bay. Had come from Antigua or somewhere, pit stopped in Horta for bunkers. Last bit around 1000 miles ish, had some adverse winds and yeah, ran out of diesel entering bay. He rang us and we grabbed some diesel in cans from a couple of yachts and got our friends who run a dolphin sightseeing boat to take us out. Transferred diesel and started towing him in. Its very busy with shipping ferries etc do better safe. Anyways, he got engine going got to his berth in the Marina, cleared in and stood by for massive p taking in bar where he got us all a few beers.

Lastly,me who by now should clearly be on guard. Doh. I'd taken another Jenneau 45 down to Lanzarote for a trip, had been a bit bouncy but crew were on the ball. On the way back normally a bit sporting, zero wind. I pit stopped in a port called Safi snd had refuelling adventures. It never seems easy on Atlantic Morocco coast. So set off on last few hundred miles, confident we were in an adequate fuel situation. Thing was, one of the crew a good friend but Man City supporter and I a Man U fan had been relentlessly discussing the upcoming Derby match so we were keen to get back to gib to watch it. So inevitably a few too many going home revs were applied, turbo on the 75hp donk probably cut in and yup diesel expenditure went up.
So we ran out at the entrance to Gibraltar Bay right where my friend conked out before. How he laughed. Phone call to Mrs S....who laughed....and she gathered some waifs and strays, bringing us some diesel on one of our other yachts.
So a red faced arrival, but with super crew sorting boat, I legged it up Marina office to clear in.....more laughing, word gets round .....then made it to pub for match Utd won but beers on me and yeah more p taking from our locals.

So anyone else brave enough to confess and risk indignant red faced shame? Or just smile and let Neptune have His day.....j
 

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I think we all have our incidents .... some don't like to make public though !!

I've posted a number of my fauz pas !! For me - my mistakes and talking about them - may save someone else from falling foul.

I hate going out without a can of spare fuel in the locker ... I've been caught out twice over the years ... each a different boat .... such that I don't wish to repeat ..
 

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I think my best 'fauz pas' is at my home mooring.

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This was the old way I moored her at home ... stern to the end of fixed pontoon.

One day - feeling chirpy - decided to go for a day on the river .... threw of the lines ... opened throttle ... off we went ... she seemed a bit slow - so just assumed she was touching bottom ... so gave it a bit more throttle ...

THEN looked astern .....

I'd forgotten to disconnect mains lead ... it was looped round a cleat - so secure on board ... cleat on pontoon as well ....

I was dragging pontoon with me !!

Sorry I don't have photo's ... but it was a mess !!
 

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Earlier this year, begining of June, returning back to our Littlehampton base from Hamble after an extended sea trial after having the pump and injectors serviced, First Mate asked - very pointedly - "Do we have enough fuel?"

I looked at the mechanical gauge, fitted under a floor hatch which gives access to a small part of the huge-for a 12 metre yacht-886 litre aluminium tank.

It showed 1/3rd full.

After having the engine stop and almost ending up on Littlehamptons West Beach I discovered the gauge float was jammed against the guide rods.

The Coastguard, after our tow in by the RNLI, were impressed with my ability to get the donk going again by extending the feed and return pipes and using the 5 litre spare fuel can I use for topping up the Racor filter housings after a filter change.

Needles to say I have modified the tank fittings and now have a dipstick, instead of being one............................................. ;)
 

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Seller of latest boat - told me tank gauge doesn't work at all .....

We filled tank for departure from his 'home port' - gauged registered best accuracy I have ever seen !!

Temp gauge doesn;t work though !!

Plan to install Rev Counter (alternator external sensor type) .... and a temp probe ..
 

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usually use the engine just for getting in and out harbour. so realised half way around the Mull of Kintyre it had been a long time since i put any diesel in... i had 2 inches on the dipstick. much calculating later, sailed slowly overnight until i was within 4h of a marina selling diesel, put the engine on, and made it (wind had died...) Always carried a spare 20litre jerry can since
 

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Having sailed from Orkney to Shetland to St Kilda we were heading for the YM classic yacht rally in Brixham 198?. Had topped up spare cans via dinghy while anchored off the IOM. Being early we were going to spend a few days in the Scilly Isles. However there had been very little sailing and a lot of motoring so east of the Scillys with the tide against us the engine gently died. The one 5 ltr can left was not enough to get in against the tide. We sailed / drifted slowly with a northerly ground track for a few hours. Then when the tide turned drifted back south for a while before starting the engine. It got us in to anchor in St Mary's bay only to find the fuel supplier was closed for the weekend.

My current boat came with dirty tanks. The main tank was very difficult to access through the bottom of a deep locker so for a couple of years I hoped to clear it by carrying lots of spare filters. We got quite good at sailing in to berths. Beating up Stornoway harbour past the piers to the marina on a falling tide was an interesting challenge. Likewise sailing in to Skagen on the north tip of Denmark. Then the CAV filters were changed for spin on fittings to make changing quicker and more reliable but we were still getting blockages after a lively passage.

Eventually I bowed to the inevitable and borrowed jerry cans to empty the tank. Opened up the tank and spent a couple of days cleaning. There was a thick deposit of what looked like rusty sludge and other gunge in the bottom of the built in GRP tank. Probably due to the steel jerry cans that came with the boat, or the supply used by the first owner.
 

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The boats fuel sender decided to tell me it was at 50% on entering King Point Marina; where Princess Yachts line up their brand new boats for final inspection I ran out of fuel!

Said fuel sender has had its electrical connections cut with blunt pliers.
 

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Yes. I've done it. Woe is me. So for perspective, these events took place in Gibraltar that has zero tax on marine diesel...

Two involve me indirectly, the third yeah, mea culpa.

The first time I was involved in a fuel free incident, I was leaving Marina Bay on a Bavaria 37. Inbound was a large 60 something Sunseeker that had arrived with skipper and two female crew....to get diesel prior to the next few days charges out of Sotogrande. The costs make it worth it. So, of course as he rounded into the channel at the end of the runway, e for enough became e for empty with a breeze blowing him onto rocks. Hey, great exercise for crew, took him under tow, quite hard yakka on a small yacht progress slow. As we were inching away from the runway, Air Traffic Control got agitated and called over the very large speakers to keep clear....exactly what we were trying to do. A police rib turned up but refused to help without a mayday call but did radio at and told them to wind their necks in. So all good, approached CEPSA fuel dock, skipper of motor boat says can we go to the Shell Dock, we got an account with them. Err OK. So job done, skips gave us 200 euros.....didn't need to do that.....and one of my crew, aussie, got the phone number of one of the girls.

Second incident. Friend of mine plus crew on a Jenneau 45 were inbound to the Bay. Had come from Antigua or somewhere, pit stopped in Horta for bunkers. Last bit around 1000 miles ish, had some adverse winds and yeah, ran out of diesel entering bay. He rang us and we grabbed some diesel in cans from a couple of yachts and got our friends who run a dolphin sightseeing boat to take us out. Transferred diesel and started towing him in. Its very busy with shipping ferries etc do better safe. Anyways, he got engine going got to his berth in the Marina, cleared in and stood by for massive p taking in bar where he got us all a few beers.

Lastly,me who by now should clearly be on guard. Doh. I'd taken another Jenneau 45 down to Lanzarote for a trip, had been a bit bouncy but crew were on the ball. On the way back normally a bit sporting, zero wind. I pit stopped in a port called Safi snd had refuelling adventures. It never seems easy on Atlantic Morocco coast. So set off on last few hundred miles, confident we were in an adequate fuel situation. Thing was, one of the crew a good friend but Man City supporter and I a Man U fan had been relentlessly discussing the upcoming Derby match so we were keen to get back to gib to watch it. So inevitably a few too many going home revs were applied, turbo on the 75hp donk probably cut in and yup diesel expenditure went up.
So we ran out at the entrance to Gibraltar Bay right where my friend conked out before. How he laughed. Phone call to Mrs S....who laughed....and she gathered some waifs and strays, bringing us some diesel on one of our other yachts.
So a red faced arrival, but with super crew sorting boat, I legged it up Marina office to clear in.....more laughing, word gets round .....then made it to pub for match Utd won but beers on me and yeah more p taking from our locals.

So anyone else brave enough to confess and risk indignant red faced shame? Or just smile and let Neptune have His day.....j
Technically speaking...if someone gets a bird’s number...and he’s your crewman...you, as captain can claim salvage rights
 

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The boats fuel sender decided to tell me it was at 50% on entering King Point Marina; where Princess Yachts line up their brand new boats for final inspection I ran out of fuel!

Said fuel sender has had its electrical connections cut with blunt pliers.
On our liveaboard boat I got fed up with fixing the fuel guage so gave up. Always logged engine hours for good guess but eventually drilled a hole in top of tank and fitted a removable plug so I could use a dowling rod to dip tank. Worked fine.

Have always reckoned though that sight guages are the ultimate. Skippered a few larger motorboats with them, fab.
 

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On our liveaboard boat I got fed up with fixing the fuel guage so gave up. Always logged engine hours for good guess but eventually drilled a hole in top of tank and fitted a removable plug so I could use a dowling rod to dip tank. Worked fine.

Have always reckoned though that sight guages are the ultimate. Skippered a few larger motorboats with them, fab.

My SR25 .... always use a stick marked off ... and a tape stuck under the bunk to lay stick against to read off how much fuel. The gauge I have in cockpit is just for indicating full or empty ... whats in between ? yes well ...

But as I say - my 38 ... gauge is spot on ... and hope it continues that way !! I cannot dip tank unless I get a carpenters rule (its a jointed dip stick on a line used on ships where dip tube has curvatures etc.).
 
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