Come On Kim

[Robin]

PLEASE get rid of the crap! And NO I don't want to 'chill out' as Brendan was told either. I certainly don't want to read a load of suggestive smutty (certainly not funny) nudge nudge wink wink stuff on Scuttlebutt (or any other BOATING forum).

Badger tried to raise the level, these prats defended it. Pretty soon they can have the whole forum to themselves.



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[Mr Cassandra]

Hi, I agree only a few threads of interest at the moment ,I think its time to pack it in. cheers bobt

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[Robin]

Thanks Bob, I'm expecting a barrage of incoming abuse anytime so I'm off to the boat. That's what boating is for, getting away from the loonies.

Robin

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[Neraida]

I'm not sure whether I'm classed as a "sinner" as i do spout rubbish every now and again, but I have to agree with you on some of the more recent stuff.

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[Mr Cassandra]

Hi to explain why its probably the most popular sailing forum,The reason imo is that from its conception it is a sailing forum and all posts should be based on sailing ,i will admit to enjoying a few of the offbeat threads but the amount of crap being posted at the moment ,to boost peoples egos and quantity of posts made.is very offputting for someone who have been on the forum from the start.. So lets keep it the BEST sailing forum by talking about sailing and get rid ofthe silly posts.
cheers bobt

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[Salty]

Agreed, and there is too much rubbish on here now. Maybe it would help if people posting interesting threads (and there are quite a few on here I think) made them easier to find by titling them better. It may not be quite so creative, but at least you'll have some idea of what the thread is about before you open it, and you would be able to spot the sailing threads from the chaff.

More than a few threads that have been great, you'd only have stumbled over by accident given the titles, and given the increasing amount of nonsense on here fewer people are likely to open threads that look like rubbish from the index.

eg - 'I hope it was your own car your moron!' was actually quite an interesting thread about the dangers of using flares as fireworks, but you'd never have guessed from the link. Likewise 'Does anybody think..?' and 'The Other Dimension', etc, etc.

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[kimhollamby]

Okay, I understand the angst but a few things:

a) accusing others of being prats is not the best way of bringing about some order here...to the extent that if I see the word prat I usually can the post;

b) if I lay too heavy a hand on any forum I get accused by all and sundry of big brotherism, so there has to be a balance (in what is after all an unmoderated forum). If the time is looming where some would prefer a moderated area we'll have to think about that but remember what you gain in order you lose in spontaneity;

c) a 'registered users only lounge' for idle chat is still a possibility. A long time back we looked at providing a chat room (some of the threads here really are of that form, rather than bulletin board posts); it won't surprise you that we decided against hosting what can rapidly become a problematic service. But chat via a lounge might be more acceptable?

d) I draw comfort from some of the posts here already acknowledging that the quality of this area is largely in the hands of the participants. Okay, following comment not entirely fair, but if every time someone had posted a complaint about the quality of the forum they had instead posted a constructive comment along the lines they themselves would wish to see, to start a debate or a useful exploration of something, then perhaps it might have helped to tilt the balance their way.

e) end of season blues = the equivalent of an annual male menopause. Not pretty, have the same issues each October/November. Three times more activity (counting viewings as well as posts) on Scuttlebutt against this time last year so three times the menopausal men I'm afraid. Not dismissing it but the occurence of extra chit chat is as certain as the arrival of an annual berthing bill and about as welcome for some folk.

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[kimhollamby]

Agreed

I would welcome better titles

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[Salty]

Good reply Kim and fair enough. The idea of a 'virtual yacht club bar', or lounge is a good one as I think some of the threads are more 'chat-room' than 'bulletin board' in nature and it would give people a chance to post some of the more informal stuff without drowning out the serious / technical content. Could be a 'win win' ?!



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[Rowana]

Re: Variety is the spice of life !

I think that all things considered, the content - Boaty & otherwise - is just about right, and Kim does a really good job in keeping some sanity to the proceedings.

This fourm will never satisfy everybody's tastes and preferences, and I agree that more "Meaningful", if that's the right word, titles would help.

Personally, I like to read all the banter in these long winter nights, as it's MUCH better that the cr*p on the telly! ! Leave things much as they are at present, is my plea to Kim.

Jim

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[l'escargot]

Improved Headings

Bottom line is that it's a bit like the average yacht club bar, you wouldn't bother with 90% of the people or opinions in it. It isn't compulsory to like or agree with every post, you don't even have to read them. Is the spectre of control by certain individuals rising it's head again?

I agree that good headings are the best way to filter (how many of us bother to change the suject box when replying) and if you open a thread you don't like, move on. Would it be possible to make the subject box empty when replying, so that you must put in a new entry before posting? It would prevent the long string of headings all the same. It would also compliment filtering by name that most of us probably do when we find an individual who posts "less interesting" comments.



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[Robin]

OK so my post gets canned for calling a spade a spade, but the Charley-Girl post and similar are allright?

And I don't think I can be accused of not posting some alternatives with interesting topics, I have a few 100 plus ones I think, not all serious boaty ones either.

Humour, jokes , banter are fine, the Charley-Girl and similar posts though were not (IMVHO of course) and I am surprised they were not pulled immediately in order to protect IPC if for no other reason.

The quality of this area is indeed largely in the hands of the participants, unfortunately (IMVHO) there is a small but voluble in-crowd posting in-crowd humour that is often so obtuse it is like the proverbial oozlum bird. If the area is flooded by these, a meaningful post can fall off the page before it has time to get going.

So Can my post or Ban me, as it is I don't think I care too much, but I do know I'm not alone in thinking the way I do.





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[Robin]

Nope, your name didn't spring to mind!

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[petery]

a pity we cannot rank a post every time we look at it and the rank be shown against the post as a guide to viewers and a deterrent to posters.

Obviously 5 stars for Nichos recent posts.

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[Robin]

Agree with you totally about Nichos post and there are other good ones too. That is what the Forums should be about. My beef is with the cras schoolboy rubbish that is getting too much of an airing across all the forums. The Charley-Girl post is the last straw for me, hearsay and inuendo at best, the stuff of the Daily Star or the Sun, not something I would like YM to be associated with.

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[l'escargot]

Reminds me of a notice I saw in the Royal Lymington the year before last, something along the lines of : "...It has come to the attention of the committee that an individual with a criminal record has been seen in the club, members are advised not to leave wallets etc. laying around in the changing rooms...".

Sun and Daily Star readers (or worse, journalists) whatever next!!!

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[webcraft]

Scuttlebutt - Love It Or Leave It

I am pretty sure that most of us think SB has just about got the mix right, and that Kim should only get his mitts on threads that directly threaten the profitability of IPC, blatantly contravene the T&Cs or are openly abusive of other users.

And - by and large, this is what he does, tempting though it must be to can some of the c...

PBO R2R forum is relatively free of nonsense . . . those who can't cope with the erratic nature of SB should stick to it, although they may miss some cracking sailing posts here.

What they shouldn't do is attempt to inflict their minority views on the rest of us and attempt to drag the management in.

Kim, I really think it might be time for a poll on this.

- Nick

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[Robin]

Re: Scuttlebutt - Love It Or Leave It

Well I do not believe I am in a minority. If I am it is a sad state of affairs when smutty inuendo is the majority and yachting topics the minority on what is after all a yachting BB.

Maybe my original post was not specific enough as to which post finally tipped the scales and got me going, but I do notice it has now magically disappeared. So maybe you are right and management do have it under control, it just took a bit longer than normal before they pulled the plug! I have no objection to jokes or banter etc, but a couple or three posts at the same time on the same subject and a subject even the UK press are being gagged on is too many - IMVHO, hence my post.



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