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Metabarca
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Re: Scuttlebutt - Love It Or Leave It
My vote, for what it's worth, is to leave things as they are. Sure, there's been some rubbish lately, but what 'pub get-together' doesn't? I think Kim has the right balance as regards canning and, I hope, this thread will itself prove sufficient (for a while) to encourage those responsible to curtail some of their in-banter and tabloid-level humour. All IMHO
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My vote, for what it's worth, is to leave things as they are. Sure, there's been some rubbish lately, but what 'pub get-together' doesn't? I think Kim has the right balance as regards canning and, I hope, this thread will itself prove sufficient (for a while) to encourage those responsible to curtail some of their in-banter and tabloid-level humour. All IMHO
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Robin
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Re: Scuttlebutt - Love It Or Leave It
Order Of The Mildewed Sail Gasket on it's way. More comfortable than the walk through Traitors Gate I believe.
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Order Of The Mildewed Sail Gasket on it's way. More comfortable than the walk through Traitors Gate I believe.
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kimhollamby
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A bit longer than normal
Yoiu've hit the nail on the head, partially because I am actually on holiday at the mo and not checking in as frequently as the norm.
Many of the regulars do help me by either sending a PM or clicking the notify moderator button
if they see anything that is starting to go off the rails and we are usually pretty quick to respond. It's always handled anonymously. Would encourage you to do likewise as our forums are unmoderated and there will be periods when we are not checking or we just plain miss something.
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Yoiu've hit the nail on the head, partially because I am actually on holiday at the mo and not checking in as frequently as the norm.
Many of the regulars do help me by either sending a PM or clicking the notify moderator button
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zefender
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Re: Scuttlebutt - Love It Or Leave It
Agree a bit with what you are saying but I don't think there is actually too much non-boaty stuff hereabouts. The non-boaty threads tend to be punctuations in an otherwise on-message list. A bit of drifting out of boatiness and more general humour is fine by me. Saloon bars in marinas and YCs are full of such conversations and I don't think I'd stop visiting them if they did stray off boaty topics every now and then. The good thing about Scuttie is then you can dip into any conversation since so many are going on at the same time. If you don't like the content of one, then you can move to another and it's not rude to be so promiscuous (perhaps unlike the real world, where we have to endure stuff, just to be polite).
The PoW thread was one of probably thousands popping up all over the place last week. Yes, some of it was very 5th form(ish) but IMHO that was an ironic reaction to the arrogance by which certain folk have sought to manage the news over so many years. That the elbow nudging spread into Scuttie, and nearly every pub across the land, should surprise no-one. The thread was pulled (probably rightly). But to moderate the content of this forum to allow only 'permissable' content is very questionable. There are plenty of comments I've seen which are certainly offensive (to me) but, judging by the ensuing follow up posts are obviously not offensive to others. Many of these start on perfectly legitimate boaty subjects and drift into name-calling diatribes. Despite that, I'd leave things as they are.
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Agree a bit with what you are saying but I don't think there is actually too much non-boaty stuff hereabouts. The non-boaty threads tend to be punctuations in an otherwise on-message list. A bit of drifting out of boatiness and more general humour is fine by me. Saloon bars in marinas and YCs are full of such conversations and I don't think I'd stop visiting them if they did stray off boaty topics every now and then. The good thing about Scuttie is then you can dip into any conversation since so many are going on at the same time. If you don't like the content of one, then you can move to another and it's not rude to be so promiscuous (perhaps unlike the real world, where we have to endure stuff, just to be polite).
The PoW thread was one of probably thousands popping up all over the place last week. Yes, some of it was very 5th form(ish) but IMHO that was an ironic reaction to the arrogance by which certain folk have sought to manage the news over so many years. That the elbow nudging spread into Scuttie, and nearly every pub across the land, should surprise no-one. The thread was pulled (probably rightly). But to moderate the content of this forum to allow only 'permissable' content is very questionable. There are plenty of comments I've seen which are certainly offensive (to me) but, judging by the ensuing follow up posts are obviously not offensive to others. Many of these start on perfectly legitimate boaty subjects and drift into name-calling diatribes. Despite that, I'd leave things as they are.
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Robin
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Re: A bit longer than normal
Thanks Kim, sorry to disturb the hols, I didn't know there was a 'notify moderator' button either and it just took me 5 minutes to find it! I don't usually scream 'foul' either though I might think it, but there comes a time and this was it for me.... the steam flow has stopped now though.
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Thanks Kim, sorry to disturb the hols, I didn't know there was a 'notify moderator' button either and it just took me 5 minutes to find it! I don't usually scream 'foul' either though I might think it, but there comes a time and this was it for me.... the steam flow has stopped now though.
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Robin
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Re: Scuttlebutt - Love It Or Leave It
I wouldn't argue with your summary either. The POW ones though I think were way OTT. There is a difference in something that might be said verbally to a group in the YC bar and what can be said in writing on a bulletin board and under the Yachting Monthly banner that is read worldwide, all IMVHO of course.
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I wouldn't argue with your summary either. The POW ones though I think were way OTT. There is a difference in something that might be said verbally to a group in the YC bar and what can be said in writing on a bulletin board and under the Yachting Monthly banner that is read worldwide, all IMVHO of course.
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DeeGee
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Re: Scuttlebutt - Love It Or Leave It
I agree with your diagnosis of a problem with the patient, but not with the treatment! The trouble with censorship - and that is what you are espousing - is the difficulty of drawing the line. Some posts may be obviously nasty, some may be just irrelevant and timewasting, creating 'noise' so we are unsure which thread is worth exploring or which can be easily ignored.
I would suggest that self-regulation is a better treatment. If I posted something I thought was funny, in my distorted mind, and a couple of replies popped up, objecting, without being unpleasant or callng me a pwat, it would not only probably silence me pretty quickly, but dissuade others? No?
BTW, would the censorship apply to all those silly postings exploring irrelevant, 'in', personal alliances - often in scots dialect (or should that be scotch?) ?
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I agree with your diagnosis of a problem with the patient, but not with the treatment! The trouble with censorship - and that is what you are espousing - is the difficulty of drawing the line. Some posts may be obviously nasty, some may be just irrelevant and timewasting, creating 'noise' so we are unsure which thread is worth exploring or which can be easily ignored.
I would suggest that self-regulation is a better treatment. If I posted something I thought was funny, in my distorted mind, and a couple of replies popped up, objecting, without being unpleasant or callng me a pwat, it would not only probably silence me pretty quickly, but dissuade others? No?
BTW, would the censorship apply to all those silly postings exploring irrelevant, 'in', personal alliances - often in scots dialect (or should that be scotch?) ?
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Robin
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Re: Scuttlebutt - Love It Or Leave It
If you read all the posts you will see it was the Charley-Girl one I was mad about and that post has now been pulled. Otherwise I agree with you, I don't like censorship either, but I also don't like to see so much rubbish on one page that a serious post which doesn't generate instant answers can get rolled over to page 2 and missed, especially if you miss a couple of days, not everyone logs on daily.
What I hadn't realised too until Kim pointed it out is that there is a 'notify moderator' button on each post and I could have used that to ask Kim to look at the post.
As for the 'in' stuff, I don't like cliques full stop but if that is what some wish to have then so be it - it is they who are the losers because eventually they get no input from outside. Personally I avoid cliques like the plague, Yacht Club, Golf Club or YBW or anywhere else, in my mind they rate about as high as PWCs. All IMHO as always.
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If you read all the posts you will see it was the Charley-Girl one I was mad about and that post has now been pulled. Otherwise I agree with you, I don't like censorship either, but I also don't like to see so much rubbish on one page that a serious post which doesn't generate instant answers can get rolled over to page 2 and missed, especially if you miss a couple of days, not everyone logs on daily.
What I hadn't realised too until Kim pointed it out is that there is a 'notify moderator' button on each post and I could have used that to ask Kim to look at the post.
As for the 'in' stuff, I don't like cliques full stop but if that is what some wish to have then so be it - it is they who are the losers because eventually they get no input from outside. Personally I avoid cliques like the plague, Yacht Club, Golf Club or YBW or anywhere else, in my mind they rate about as high as PWCs. All IMHO as always.
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DeeGee
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Re: Scuttlebutt - Love It Or Leave It
One problem is that moderately serious threads can get hijacked by this trivia.
I note that once-upon-a-time, people used to post (thinly-disguised) adverts, and there would be a little spate of anti-postings. It stopped the ads eventually.
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One problem is that moderately serious threads can get hijacked by this trivia.
I note that once-upon-a-time, people used to post (thinly-disguised) adverts, and there would be a little spate of anti-postings. It stopped the ads eventually.
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beancounter
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Poorly titled posts
Salty,
As one of the perpetrators of the posts you mentioned, I'm happy to accept your point & will try to be less obtuse in future....
cheers
John
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Salty,
As one of the perpetrators of the posts you mentioned, I'm happy to accept your point & will try to be less obtuse in future....
cheers
John
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