CNB Bordeaux 60 - in build (pics)

[Magnum]

I am envious. My 46 is far smaller than the 46/60 ratio indicates.

Enjoy as much as possible.

May I suggest you get training on some dinghies before you get aboard??? As it seems this is your first raggy; you will be thankful you did the training as dinghies will show you how to set the sails correctly. (Reward you with a dunking when you get it wrong)

You could ask me to come along???

Me and SWMBO hired a Benetau 473 plus instructor for a week at the end of September in South West England to get our Day Skipper practical. Wanted to learn in tidal conditions. We plan to do at least another week with instructor before May. Plus we have a week's bareboat charter in the BVI in Feb, plus anything else we can fit in.

We'll also be doing the delivery trip from Bordeaux to Guernsey as crew, so by the time we get there we should be reasonably familiar with her. We then intend to have additional training on board during our first few weeks of ownership and will ensure we have experienced crew with us on any long passages during 2010. I'm quite keen to get the Sea Survival and First Aid courses completed too.

Training is no substitute for experience but we are already experienced mobo'ers so have a head start.

 

[photodog]

Wow! She is gonna be great!

Keep the updates coming!

 

[zarathustra]

We considered the Jeanneau DS57, Contest 62CS, Southerley 57RS, Oyster 625, Shipman 63 and Discovery 67

The Shipman appears to be very much on the sporty side, she looks great in the pics too, did you get up close with all those yachts, did you look at the Swans also?
Is a pic of the CNB 60 on the back of one of the yacht mags I was reading this morning, looks a smasher

 

[Magnum]

The Shipman appears to be very much on the sporty side, she looks great in the pics too, did you get up close with all those yachts, did you look at the Swans also?
Is a pic of the CNB 60 on the back of one of the yacht mags I was reading this morning, looks a smasher

Many were dismissed because they didn't have enough headroom down below. Nothing worse than crouching everywhere.

The Shipman looked interesting but quite small inside, as you would expect from such a sporty light-displacement design. It was also hugely expensive.

It's all about compromise with boating and the Bordeaux 60 offered most of what I wanted at a reasonable price compared to say the Contest or Oyster.

We looked at a few in the flesh but had a full day's sailing on the Bordeaux 60, plus several discussions with owners.

 

[WoodyP]

I would love to know how you manage to afford such luxury.
I supsect you work for Cunard.
G.

 

[Monique]

Me and SWMBO hired a Benetau 473 plus instructor for a week at the end of September in South West England to get our Day Skipper practical. Wanted to learn in tidal conditions. We plan to do at least another week with instructor before May. Plus we have a week's bareboat charter in the BVI in Feb, plus anything else we can fit in.

We'll also be doing the delivery trip from Bordeaux to Guernsey as crew, so by the time we get there we should be reasonably familiar with her. We then intend to have additional training on board during our first few weeks of ownership and will ensure we have experienced crew with us on any long passages during 2010. I'm quite keen to get the Sea Survival and First Aid courses completed too.

Training is no substitute for experience but we are already experienced mobo'ers so have a head start.

Hey matey,

You have a thoughtful and reflected attitude towards your new raggy.

You should enjoy her. She looks lovely.

I too moboated before returning to sail (says he quietly)

 

[BlueSkyNick]

Re First Aid, any course will do, you dont need to do the RYA specific one, and I found to be a very good refresher.

Sea Survival is essential, if you are going off shore, IMHO. Its not so much that you might need to survive at sea, but more about learning that you don't want to find yourself in the position of having to do so.

 

[morsimon]

Me and SWMBO hired a Benetau 473 plus instructor for a week at the end of September in South West England to get our Day Skipper practical. Wanted to learn in tidal conditions. We plan to do at least another week with instructor before May. Plus we have a week's bareboat charter in the BVI in Feb, plus anything else we can fit in.

We'll also be doing the delivery trip from Bordeaux to Guernsey as crew, so by the time we get there we should be reasonably familiar with her. We then intend to have additional training on board during our first few weeks of ownership and will ensure we have experienced crew with us on any long passages during 2010. I'm quite keen to get the Sea Survival and First Aid courses completed too.

Training is no substitute for experience but we are already experienced mobo'ers so have a head start.

Magnum - congrats on your decision and suspect it will be a fantastic experience. I am in a similar position to yourself but looking at buying a little smaller than yours. Could I ask with whom you did your training on the Beneteau 473 and approximate costs ?

Also what did you think of the Southerly 57 and what made you decide against buying one ?

Thanks and good luck with your project

 

[MedDreamer]

Bloody hell Magnum, what a shocker! Dark side indeed.

You are aware it won't plane aren't you

It looks great though. I have to admit that if I were tempted back on the water (which I'm not at the moment) it would be sail rather than power.

Not sure I would get SWMBO onboard though

Looking forward to seeing your new adventure develop

 

[chippysmith]

Fantastic looking yacht, most impressed. But how bizarre, on checking the images on the CNB website, (superb as they are) I notice the 60' "Disco Inferno", and today being steered to a blog site mentioned in "Mobo doing the ARC" I find a photograph (transom of yacht between two neighbours) of which one is "Disco Inferno"

Of all the yachts in all the world... But I guess you used the ARC entrants list as a pre-cursor of choice? or is this just a weird coincidence

 

[Magnum]

Bloody hell Magnum, what a shocker! Dark side indeed.

You are aware it won't plane aren't you

It looks great though. I have to admit that if I were tempted back on the water (which I'm not at the moment) it would be sail rather than power.

Not sure I would get SWMBO onboard though

Looking forward to seeing your new adventure develop

Good to hear from you matey and say hi to SWMBO

Don't worry, our mobo days are not over, just on hold due to circumstances beyond our control.

 

[sighmoon]

Your boat looks like it will be superb, Magnum. Looking forward to updates so I can live vicariously through you.

Never seen an aluminium frame to take the loads before - make sense from a weight perspective.

Dehlers had them in the 80s, so tried and tested.

 

[Magnum]

A quick heads-up. We'll be visiting the factory at Bordeaux on Monday 10th Jan so will post some more build pics shortly afterwards

Also, if anyone has any technical questions for the builder I'd be happy to ask.

 

[sarabande]

Oh I hope that visit will be fun for you both !

When I PM'd an aluminium racer in the 70's, Olin Stephens was fanatical about bonding everything, and we had to search the crew for bronze pennies before they were allowed to sail.

We had in the previous yacht a near experience with lightning, so there was much technical discussion on earthing large currents, including earthing plates and in-built cables to earth the mast (aluminium - not like your carbon one - [though that will need the same treatment)

What provision is your builder making for lightning strikes ? Plates, dispersion spikes on the mast, chains to throw overboard ?


(Sorry to be pessimistic; just another worst case thought !)

 

[Magnum]

I'll find out. I know there is a lightening arrestor at the mast head. Not sure about other provisions.

Here's a snippet of the mast drawing.

 

[longjohnsilver]

Hi Magnum, missed this thread until now. Where are you going to keep her when you get back to the UK. Seem to remember that Salcombe was your favourite place but I suspect finding somewhere there is likely to be difficult.

 

[Magnum]

The plan is to sail from Bordeaux to Guernsey in May, then base ourselves at Mountbatten for a few months whilst we cruise the South West getting used to her. Then we head for the med in August, probably with Corsica in mind as our winter base.

At least that's the latest plan

 

[sarabande]

they seem to have got it sorted at the top anyway


How very sensible to put rigid folding steps at just the right height for someone working on the aerials. Umm, might be a bit too high for you, though....


Spare messengers and spare main halyard too - for the storm trysail ?

 

[Magnum]

Spare messengers and spare main halyard too - for the storm trysail ?

Sounds reasonable but I honestly don't know. I will find out

 

[Nautorius]

Congratulations Magnum! Great choice and a serious bit of kit!

As someone who jumped back to Sail boats in 2009 from Mobo's I find them a lot easier to own, sail and just be around, especially in the Med. On the Mobos i was always worried about what would break next, who would fix it etc. On the sail boat we do basic maintenance and Sail her! I still hanker after a large Mobo but it makes sense to sail......especially around Gibraltar with the weather and waves!

Looking forward to the build Pics, and try not to load her with too many complicated toys...you hardly ever use them on a Sail boat!

Paul