Clyde CG VHF Nav. Broadcasts

[earlybird]

With closure of the Clyde CG, their VHF broadcasts times are now covered from Belfast.
The inshore areas coverage now seems to have changed, with, eg, the Clyde and some Irish Sea areas in the same broadcast, and more northern Scottish waters omitted .
None of the websites I've tried seem to cover these changes, including HMCG themselves, which still lists the old schedule under Clyde CG.
Does anyone have a link with up-to date info?

 

[rhumlady]

The northern areas would be covered by Stornoway I would have thought.

 

[NormanS]

Stornoway CG is doing Mull of Kintyre to Ardnamurchan, The Minch, and Ardnamuchan to Cape Wrath.

 

[Jcorstorphine]

Send them a Chart of the Clyde perhaps

Maybe, we should send the guys at Belfast a Chart of the Clyde, might be of some help if they are to co-ordinate a rescue!

If this is the case and they are not giving out weather information for the Clyde then it is a sad reflection of what we should expect in the future …………….NOTHING.

 

[OGITD]

Clyde Coastguard Weather Broadcasts!

On two separate occasions whilst out sailing the CCG gave their weather TX’s .... & one was quite funny (& totally wrong) & the other once again totally wrong & ended up with ourselves heading into the worst conditions I have ever been out in, so much so that some extremely experienced sailors couldn’t believe we made it back safely .... we obviously did .... but only just.
So on this basis I’d rather rely on the couple of weather sites I use and not listen to the CG ..... but in their defence aren’t they just relaying info from the Met-Office?

 

[rhumlady]

Belfast will give weather broadcasts which include the Clyde area bout not north of Mull of Kintyre. I have had occasion toi speak to Belfast in the past when around Islay and they have been just as efficient if not possibly more so than Clyde. As for the weather being wrong, it doesn't matter if it is raining cats and dogs and they can see it, they can only give out the weather that they are supplied with, right or wrong.

 

[dje67]

Stornoway CG is doing Mull of Kintyre to Ardnamurchan, The Minch, and Ardnamuchan to Cape Wrath.

This doesn't seem very well through-through. If I'm sailing from the Clyde area to the "round the Mull" area (or the "through the Crinan Canal area"), does this mean I'll not get the forecast for the Kintyre part until I'm in range of Stornoway (it would be a nowcast by then....).

There must be loads of Clyde shipping heading north that will miss getting the Kintyre info.

 

[pagoda]

This doesn't seem very well through-through. If I'm sailing from the Clyde area to the "round the Mull" area (or the "through the Crinan Canal area"), does this mean I'll not get the forecast for the Kintyre part until I'm in range of Stornoway (it would be a nowcast by then....).

There must be loads of Clyde shipping heading north that will miss getting the Kintyre info.

+1
The idea of sitting in Campbeltown or Sanda, listening for weather for The Sound of Jura / up towards Mull, and relying on VHF for forecasts sounds rather badly handled . Unless Stornoway is transmitting from more Southerly relays somewhere now, you probably won't hear them until you're level with Mull?, if at all?
I use navtex anyway, so you get a look at as many inshore forecasts as you like, or need. VHF fills in a few gaps during the day.
There's lots of boats head north from Ireland up the outside of Kintyre so there may be some pressure from them to persuade Belfast to provide the info>??

Graeme

 

[NormanS]

Relax. Belfast CG does Isle of Man, Carlingford Lough to Lough Foyle, Clyde, AND Mull of Kintyre to Ardnamurchan.
I am sitting aboard at present and these are actual observations. I agree that Navtex is better, in that you don't have to be listening at a particular time. In fact you don't even need to be aboard. To those who criticize the CG for the accuracy of the forecast ---- oh dear.

 

[OGITD]

Why NS?

To those who criticize the CG for the accuracy of the forecast ---- oh dear.

If it's wrong is should be commented on and hopefully corrected ...... no-one should knowingly ever supply incorrect information which people are relying on.

So .... what is wrong here?

 

[awol]

To those who criticize the CG for the accuracy of the forecast ---- oh dear.

Aye, they are totally deluded. It's obviously the RNLI's fault!

 

[webcraft]

Aye, they are totally deluded. It's obviously the RNLI's fault!

No no no, I blame the RYA.

- W

 

[earlybird]

The point of my OP was not to pass judgement on the new schedules, but rather to point out that VHF schedules broadcast from what were the Clyde CG aerials have been changed, without, AFAIK, those changes being notified. Hence my question.
Perhaps, when I buy a 2013 almanac, they'll be in there!

 

[Gwylan]

Cg & navtex

+1
The idea of sitting in Campbeltown or Sanda, listening for weather for The Sound of Jura / up towards Mull, and relying on VHF for forecasts sounds rather badly handled . Unless Stornoway is transmitting from more Southerly relays somewhere now, you probably won't hear them until you're level with Mull?, if at all?
I use navtex anyway, so you get a look at as many inshore forecasts as you like, or need. VHF fills in a few gaps during the day.
There's lots of boats head north from Ireland up the outside of Kintyre so there may be some pressure from them to persuade Belfast to provide the info>??

Graeme

Interesting to see this conversation develop.

My experience of the West Coast led me to rely on NAVTEX.

Unfortunately there were some occasions this summer when, because of industrial action, an executive decision was taken not to broadcast NAVTEX forecasts.
This lead to some problems for those of us who use the NAVTEX system.

It also lead to the 'suggestion' from the minister responsible at the MCA 'that sailors should not rely on the NAVTEX system but have other ways of receiving weather forecasts on board'.
They cited the web-site of the Met Office. The Met Office does rather specifically say that you should not rely on this service!

Also I am not sure what the scope is for broad band reception on the West Coast where mobile phone signals can be at a premium.

So I suppose it's a case of watch the barometer very closely and local observations.

 

[awol]

Perhaps, when I buy a 2013 almanac, they'll be in there!

Not in the 2013 Reed's they won't. Still Clyde at 10 past every 3rd hour.

 

[Cantata]

On two separate occasions whilst out sailing the CCG gave their weather TX’s .... & one was quite funny (& totally wrong) & the other once again totally wrong & ended up with ourselves heading into the worst conditions I have ever been out in, so much so that some extremely experienced sailors couldn’t believe we made it back safely .... we obviously did .... but only just.
So on this basis I’d rather rely on the couple of weather sites I use and not listen to the CG ..... but in their defence aren’t they just relaying info from the Met-Office?

Yes, they are.