club flags --port or stbd spreader

[clyst]

Hi all

please settle an arguement . Should club flags be flown from Pt or Stbd spreader.

Cheers

Terry

 

[VicS]

Your club burgee ( a triangular flag) should be flown from the masthead but with all the clutter there these days it is more usually flown from the starboard spreader.

Using the stbd spreader introduces a complication when wanting to fly a courtesy flag.

House flags are flown from the port spreader.

You'll now get countless opinions that its all a load of old guff and that you can fly want you want from where you want when you want

The RYA used to publish a booklet, C4, on flag etiquette but it is now on the website and accessible to members

 

[2Tizwoz]

The traditional club burgee has red borders on two sides, as shown here. In recent years variations of this traditional design have arisen. The proper position for a burgee is at the main masthead on a stick or some other support. It is now common practice to fly the burgee from the lower starboard mast spreader. Strictly this is the place to fly the Q flag or the national courtesy flag when visiting a foreign country. It is a breach of flag etiquette to fly any flag above a national courtesy flag on the same flag halyard. House flags (e.g. the RNLI flag) may be hoisted on the port spreader flag halyard.

From our website so it must be right. http://www.rnyc.org.uk/facility/ensign.html

 

[Tom Price]

Have just been wading through the above and there are many contradictions.

For example, a courtesy flag is customary but not obligatory. It is a signal and must be given priority at the Starb'd crosstrees - which shouldn't be cluttered with anything else else or we might be confused.
However, the club burgee must not be inferior to the courtesy ensign by being flown at the Port spreaders.

As for interpreting this on a MoBo with no yardarms and possibly no mast . .
And where does the Forum flag go???

Sadly this confusion can only excite those who delight in breaching protocol!

 

[Csail]

Stbd

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Stbd

If you can't be ars*d to fly it from the accepted and correct position of masthead

 

[Ubergeekian]

You'll now get countless opinions that its all a load of old guff and that you can fly want you want from where you want when you want

It's not a lot of old guff, but it is a game, playing of which is not obligatory.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Play up, play the game sir

 

[Upnorth]

What's a 'House' flag?

 

[Fr J Hackett]

What's a 'House' flag?

Ask Hugh Lawrie

 

[Bru]

Stbd

Port

(He asked where does the FLAG go - flag therefore house flag therefore port spreader)

S'fun this flag ettyket stuff innit? One day I might actually be able to afford some flags!

 

[VicS]

What's a 'House' flag?

A small, usually rectangular, flag such as a shipping company flag, a flag of an organisation to which you belong or even a personal flag.

I have for example an RYA flag, a RNLI flag and a Sea Wych Owners Association 40 year anniversary flag.

 

[VicMallows]

It's not a lot of old guff, but it is a game, playing of which is not obligatory.

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Vic

 

[VicS]

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Vic

But at times it borders on the obligatory/mandatory

For example:

wearing a national maritime ensign when in entering or leaving port in certain circumstances

flying the appropriate club burgee if wearing a special, eg blue, Ensign.

also in some counties flying a courtesy flag.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Bugg*r just realised flying the ensign and haven't been ar*ed to hoist the burgee, at the masthead of course. (Scuttles outside to furl the ensign)

Tomorrow I will make amends the ensign will be flying from the staff at the pushpit, the ensign will be hoisted at the masthead, the association flag superior to the forum flag at off the port flag halyard and as I am not going to foreign parts nowt from the starboard flag halyards

 

[VicS]

Bugg*r just realised flying the ensign

You WEAR an ensign, at least on a ship or boat.

Its only "flown" ashore.

No catering for you ignorant fellows is there

 

[Fr J Hackett]

You WEAR an ensign, at least on a ship or boat.

Its only "flown" ashore.

No catering for you ignorant fellows is there

The offence has been noted and logged, up before the captain tomorrow expect a flogging at least

 

[Tranona]

The offence has been noted and logged, up before the captain tomorrow expect a flogging at least

But only if you are cauggt between sunrise and sunset. In the dark nobody cares because you aren't supposed to be flying an ensign at all (according to some sticklers)

 

[Tom Price]

[QUOTE=petehb;2975401:
"the ensign will be hoisted at the masthead"

Mind you don't capsize!

"the association flag superior to the forum flag at the port flag halyard"

Don't let the moderators find out!"

IMHO the forum flag should be a rectangular house flag NOT a burgee at all, which is the prerogative of a Club or Association with paid-up members.

 

[Lady Campanula]

Oikes!