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[Jim44]

I purchased a New Bayliner 2655 in 2000 and was charged £297.90+vat for the Antifouling (in Black), I sold the boat in 2003 to upgrade to a larger boat.

I left the boat in the water for the full 3 years that I owned the boat and never checked, or thought about, the antifoul.

I saw the boat out of the water for the first time last weekend and the boat has never been antifouled.

Do I have the right to request a refund from the dealer??

My view is yes, or the boat should be antifouled at no cost for the new owner

Thoughts?

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[BrendanS]

Tell the new owner the situation, and leave him to persue the claim, and save yourself a great deal of grief, aggro and stress (IMHO)

as a matter of interest, what the heck was the state of the hull, and didn't you notice any performance issues at all. Very unusual for anyone who enjoys boating not to look at hull or wonder about it?

I presume outdrives? is the new owner aware that bellow on outdrive never looked at or replaced.

Is this a wind up?

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[oldgit]

Re: 3 years ? Cripes.

Suprised that David Attenborough and a film crew were not camped next door,the amount of growth that would have been on the hull.
Recently amazed at the quanties of weed present on boats in Brighton marina,either very fertile ???? water or all owners bit skinflinty in the anti-foul dept..

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[Roy]

Hi Jim

Suggest that you get the anodes inspected thoroughly and possible signs of electrolic damage to legs, skegs, props etc. will be evident if the anodes are gone. If your boat is fitted with the electronic corrosion preventers, all to the good, but these only work when the engines are running. Hopefully you won't have any hull blisters or 'osmosis' but if you do, then you will find that the American giant corps' that run maxum, bayliner, searay and others won't entertain any claim for below water damage etc. Hopefully, all is well, but do check. Perhaps you might budget for an annual lift and scrub - well worth the money when weighed against leg or hull damage which as you may know can run to several grand £££'s if problems appear! Best regards. Roy

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[Jim44]

This is the first boat I owned that was left in the water all year round. The boat is kept in fresh water and there was no real growth that i know of. I had the hull jet washed off twice from memory. The boat has since been cleaned off and looks like new.

The boat was serviced every year as recomended by the dealer. They did all the work and I think they may have pulled it out of the water for this.

As always you learn alot as you go along and I understand alot more about boat care and engine care than i did 4 years ago and I still believe I lots more to learn.

Since joining this forum I have also learnt alot and take more of an interest in how everything works and what needs doing.

Thanks to everbody for advise, some is good and some not so, I just try and pick the bits that make sense and ignore some peoples posts altogether.



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[tcm]

Um, if it hasn't been antifouled at all, then that money should be refunded.

But under the circumstances the consequences of not having antifoul would not be with the dealer - you should have checked the condition of the hull - and a darn sight more often than erm, never.

Mind you, if you've never seen the bottom of the boat, nore even thought about it ... how would you know what antifoul looks like? Note that it could easily have been antifoul and yet be covered in weeds and barnacles - the antifoul these days is nearer to a sacrificial paint to protect the hull from damage when releasing barnacles etc rather than a paint covering which prevents their growth.

Separetly, and quite seriously - if you blandly say that you "never even thought about it" - what else might you have ignored? I think you need to find or hire some help to show you around the boat. Or the next boat.


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[Johnnygil]

Jim I'm like you new to the game only since September last year when I saw the boat out of water at survey I thought that the paint was coming off and was told thats the antifoul.

Trouble is the boats out of water now and I dont know if A/F needs doing or rubbing down but think will just A/F it anyway possibly with International UNO

This boating lark is like rocket science to me

Anodes, bilge pumps, A/F splitter diodes, twin bank batts, etc.....

Come on I mean it cant be that technical surely.

J

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[BrendanS]

Ah! makes more sense. When you said it had been in for three years, sounded like it had never been lifted for maintenance

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[Dave_Snelson]

Guys - you\'ve missed the trick..

This is a Windermere boat and as such there aint no barnacles or weed. It will only suffer from slime, or osmosis - and it aint likely to suffer from osmosis either.

Jim - I think you have little to worry about. But do anti-foul the new one...

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[Jim44]

Re: Guys - you\'ve missed the trick..

The "new boat" is a 1999 boat anti-fouled since new, when i bought it I had it surveyed and it was confirmed then that the anti-foul is still ok. I have been informed that the factory anti-foul, its a Sealine this time, should last 6 to 7 years

The Boat has only done 76hours from new so not heavy use at all.

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[duncan]

Re: Guys - you\'ve missed the trick..

6-7 years for antifoul on a planning boat (OK not for much longer up there but............)
can I have some of this stuff? please!!!!!!!

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[Jim44]

Re: Guys - you\'ve missed the trick..

Only repeating what i was told, I know after 4 years, and 25hours, that everything was ok when they crane her out.

Think they fresh water is very kind to them.

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[ArthurWood]

Re: Guys - you\'ve missed the trick..

I've had a boat in fresh water for 5 yr with no antifoul. All it ever needed was a wipe with a scrub pad.

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