Giblets
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The CLV has now been replaced with a Type 1 Safe Water buoy. Trinity House to replace Channel Lightvessel with Type 1 buoy
Channel Light Vessel no more.
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glynd
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They have a picture of the old light vessel...
Would it have hurt to show a picture of what's going to replace it?!
Would it have hurt to show a picture of what's going to replace it?!
Lucy52
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LONG_KEELER
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Sacrilege .
What's required is a typical British loony to buy it and declare it as an offshore tax haven with it's own money and a sail thru restaurant.
What's required is a typical British loony to buy it and declare it as an offshore tax haven with it's own money and a sail thru restaurant.
Giblets
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glynd
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I guess the shipping forecast will change slightly now then as well!
Giblets
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The shipping forecast won't as that deals with areas but I expect the Marine Observation Report will change in due course. The conditions reported from the new buoy are the same as from the old light vessel.
Gwylan
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It was a handy aiming point. Along with the TV masts up behind Dover.
l aways felt we were home or on our way when we passed it.
l aways felt we were home or on our way when we passed it.
matt1
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Well it certainly seems like you can't currently get as much data. Hopefully it's just a question of it not enabled yet and in time it will come. For instance no wave height or vis, wind gust
Giblets
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Gary Fox
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I think buoys in that neck of the woods get so beaten up by the weather that missing data is common, I used to log on to the Sandettie version often, and there was usually something missing, or nonsensical readings like 0.01m wave heights.
matt1
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thx
Sybarite
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I don't understand how they determine the degree of visibility.
Gary Fox
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Good question. Smoke alarms are very sensitive, maybe the buoys work in a similar way?
penfold
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Koschmeider's Law, originally using a bright collimated light and light sensors, these days a laser is generally used; thus.
grumpy_o_g
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"Following the grounding of the Amoco Cadiz in 1978, the International Maritime Organization (IMO) adopted the Off Casquets Traffic Separation Scheme (TSS) in 1979; Trinity House established the Channel Lightvessel so as to clearly define the new TSS to all mariners at a time when such schemes were a relatively new maritime feature.
As part of the continuous review of its provision of aids to navigation—and further to the discontinuation of the East Channel buoy in 2018—Trinity House has carried out extensive analysis on the requirement for the Channel Lightvessel.
It has been determined that as the lightvessel marks only the end of the TSS and not any physical hazards to navigation, it could be removed now that the marine traffic patterns in the area are well established."
It took 32 years to establish traffic patterns?
LONG_KEELER
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Gary Fox
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Maybe only recently have reliable buoys been available with the digital data collecting and sending equipment?
I totally agree the 'traffic patterns' justification seems odd. They (probably a PR intern?) didn't analyse what they were writing.
Ships' masters don't spend 30 yrs learning to follow ingrained patterns, like mice running for their local mousehole, (imagine the carnage!) they are taught to use charts and pilots and local directions etc.
Although we all know the TSS, in fact the whole concept of traffic lanes, coloured marks etc was a bit slow to catch on sometimes, it has been thoroughly established a long time now.
Anyway hopefully the old ship gets a second career as a floating clubhouse or home.
Gary Fox
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Why stand in the way of modern progress?How could they !
Like replacing Stonehenge with a signpost to the M3.
All those ancient ley-lines must be well established by now!
Andibs
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We have our own at the club
