Carpet headlining in the forepeak which glue??

[alexrunic]

Hi one of the many jobs this winter is to carpet the roof area of the forepeak. i will be using foam backed carpet, which glue would people recommend? ordinary arosol carpet glue or is there something better on the market?

Thanks

Alex

 

[Refueler]

Mines hessian backed and fixed with carpet spray on glue - solvent free ! Honest beware of any solvent type glue - in that area when using it could be dangerous to breathe and is also flammable.

 

[pvb]

Carpet is often used for sidelining, but it's a bit heavy for headlining use. If it's foam-backed, you're relying on the integrity of the foam layer to hold it in place. It might be worth talking to a specialist trim supplier such as Hawke House, and see what they recommend. They supply special high heat adhesives too, which are better at resisting the high temperatures experienced on the underside of the deck (even in our wretched climate!).

 

[alahol2]

Or THESE people will supply the high heat spray (or paint on) glues.
ps. make yourself an official looking letterhead and you can usually get a trade discount...

 

[sarabande]

bear in mind (as Tigger said) that the glue may have to cope with temperatures >50C if the sun is on the foredeck. At that level, some glues and just give up and let go.

Check out the spec with the adhesive supplier for its useable temp range.

 

[hurkur]

Carpeted the forward peak 12 months ago .Used rubber backed bathroom carpet (can be washed down).Used spray glue and a good face mask had no problems so far (went thro. french cannel system, very hot 85f +).I believe secret is to get rid of ALL of the old glue.

 

[VicS]

I would use a high heat contact adhesive such as the one Hawke House supply.

Be mindful of Refueller's comments about the danger of using a solvent based adhesive in a confined space. Good ventilation AND an organic vapours mask, which Hawke House can supply, are vital.

 

[dockmaster]

I used standard contact adhesive 2.5 years ago on foam backed carpet for side linings and even with med temperatures there have been no problems at all. Buy a good face mask and you can work below all day without getting high!

 

[Vara]

I really would avoid foam backed carpet for this job, hundreds of horror stories about trying to remove foam when it's gone crumbly.

The last time I did this job I used the cheapest 100% synthetic cord carpet with a scrim backing secured with an evostick product. I am informed that 10 years on it's still serviceable.

 

[2nd_apprentice]

Since I'm about to do exactly the same, lining the newly insulated forepeak with carpet , which would be the most suitable and cost efficient product? FloTex is a bit out of question!

 

[Carolwildbird]

You could look at "headlining" (put in search engine) on the kayospuce website ( http://www.sailcloth.co.uk)- lots of options there

 

[2nd_apprentice]

Suppose it's good quality stuff. Shame they don't seem to bother showing any pictures though!

 

[alahol2]

Kayospruce will send you sample swatches if you give them a call. They sell a sort of cord 'carpet' that has no backing at all. I've now used it on 2 boats and its excellent. Much less heavy than normal carpets to glue up.

 

[Vara]

I just went into the local carpet warehouse, they had loads of choice and pretty cheap.

 

[Strathglass]

I have used many metres of 'marine' polyprop carpet which comes without a foam back in the past for the inside trimming of yachts.
Because I now have no local, reasonable cost source for marine wall carpet I now use foam backed polyprop carpet from a local carpet store.
The foam on the back can easily be removed by using any kind of scraper prior to fitting.

For sticking it I use brush on contact adhesive.

I have never had any great success with the spray on stuff I find it can be quite messy to use and has not (for me) always given good adhesion.

Sometimes I coat both sides and leave it to set a little other times I just brush it on one side.

I do have a face mask and have an extractor fan running all the time when using it.

I also have someone to check that everything is ok every five minutes.

I have had no problems with it falling off.

Iain

 

[Talbot]

within 5 years you will regret using a foam backed carpet as the foam goes brittle and the carpet fallls down

Plain hessian backed does not provide the insulation and is not great to stick up properly.

I used a light felt backed carpet from carpet right (sp) - this provided the insulation but with much better longevity than the foam.

 

[PeterGibbs]

Don't glue - you don't need to and there are equal alternatives. Carpet cut to size will jamb against the furniture. Lay antislip matting underneath - the stuff you can get in caravanning shops for £3 a long roll - and you are home dry.

And when the carpet gets wet - doesn't it ever - just pull it up and hang it out to dry to avoid that fungus musty smell.

No, glue is not the way.

PWG

 

[pvb]

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Don't glue - you don't need to and there are equal alternatives. Carpet cut to size will jamb against the furniture. Lay antislip matting underneath - the stuff you can get in caravanning shops for £3 a long roll - and you are home dry.

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