Cariad1904
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Working on a website for the 1904 Bristol Channel Pilot Cutter Cariad. The site is still a work in progress. Any suggestions welcome.
http://www.cariad.org
http://www.cariad.org
Cariad - 1904 Bristol Channel Pilot Cutter
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Kukri
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I'll bite.
1. Why have you painted the white Cariad black?
2. 1923-29 history might be debated by some.
3. Augustine Courtauld, not Augustus.
1. Why have you painted the white Cariad black?
2. 1923-29 history might be debated by some.
3. Augustine Courtauld, not Augustus.
Cariad1904
New Member
Cariad -1904 Bristol Channel Pilot Cutter
Thanks for your comments.
1. Cariad’s hull, deck and rig have been restored as close as possible to her pilot cutter days. Her hull is painted black, and she bears the Cardiff pilot mark on her sails. She was also black when she was at Exeter Maritime Museum (see website).
Cariad off Ilfracombe, circa 1910
2. The history has been reproduced by kind permission of Tim Pratt, and first appeared in The Wave, the Bristol Channel Pilot Cutter Owners' Association Newsletter.
3. Thanks for the correction, I'll pass it on.
Thanks for your comments.
1. Cariad’s hull, deck and rig have been restored as close as possible to her pilot cutter days. Her hull is painted black, and she bears the Cardiff pilot mark on her sails. She was also black when she was at Exeter Maritime Museum (see website).
Cariad off Ilfracombe, circa 1910
2. The history has been reproduced by kind permission of Tim Pratt, and first appeared in The Wave, the Bristol Channel Pilot Cutter Owners' Association Newsletter.
3. Thanks for the correction, I'll pass it on.
Kukri
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1. What are your topsides planked with?
She's your boat, to do as you like with, and if you really want to have black topsides, I cannot stop you, but to paint a boat that for most of her life was called "the white Cariad" (the Hambly-built skiff was "the black Cariad") black, just because she was black as a working boat seems to me to be inviting a great deal of trouble and work for very little reward. Have you gone for hemp and manilla rope and cotton sails? Do you have an engine? If not, then as Cromwell said to Parliament, " I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be mistaken!" As you may gather, my own boat was black for the first five decades of her life until I bought her; she has thanked me repeatedly..
2. Noted, thanks. I will try to contact the Editor. Is it still Dominic Ziegler?
3. Augustine Courtauld was a very distinguished man, in many respects, not all of which, such as his foundation of the OYC, his loan of the "Duet" to them and his sartorial run-ins with the RYS, are mentioned here:
http://www.augustinecourtauldtrust.org/history.html
The name Augustine Courtauld runs in the family, which is one of Britain's Good and Great dynasties, having arrived from France following the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes. There was a distinguished siversmith working in the 1720s by the name of Augustine Courtauld.
She's your boat, to do as you like with, and if you really want to have black topsides, I cannot stop you, but to paint a boat that for most of her life was called "the white Cariad" (the Hambly-built skiff was "the black Cariad") black, just because she was black as a working boat seems to me to be inviting a great deal of trouble and work for very little reward. Have you gone for hemp and manilla rope and cotton sails? Do you have an engine? If not, then as Cromwell said to Parliament, " I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be mistaken!" As you may gather, my own boat was black for the first five decades of her life until I bought her; she has thanked me repeatedly..
2. Noted, thanks. I will try to contact the Editor. Is it still Dominic Ziegler?
3. Augustine Courtauld was a very distinguished man, in many respects, not all of which, such as his foundation of the OYC, his loan of the "Duet" to them and his sartorial run-ins with the RYS, are mentioned here:
http://www.augustinecourtauldtrust.org/history.html
The name Augustine Courtauld runs in the family, which is one of Britain's Good and Great dynasties, having arrived from France following the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes. There was a distinguished siversmith working in the 1720s by the name of Augustine Courtauld.
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Keen_Ed
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Sounds like fun. Could you elucidate?
Kukri
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My source is a little book called "Sailing in Eccentric Circles" by Ian Dear.
It seems he was elected soon after the War and amongst other misdemeanours he once came ashore from "Duet" in white flannel trousers and...horrors... on another occasion wore a beret with the RYS insignia on it rather than a yachting cap. There was also an anecdote about his children on the Squadron Lawn, but I've forgotten that one.
It seems he was elected soon after the War and amongst other misdemeanours he once came ashore from "Duet" in white flannel trousers and...horrors... on another occasion wore a beret with the RYS insignia on it rather than a yachting cap. There was also an anecdote about his children on the Squadron Lawn, but I've forgotten that one.
Herringchoker
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Rnlb 44-011
As an aside the RNLB Augustine Courtauld 44-011 was stationed at Arklow before it was sold out of service.
I was cox on the passage to Poole where she was to be decommissioned. On approach to the chain ferry at Poole we were alerted by the CG to a windsurfer in difficulty inside the harbour. We picked him up off a porthand bouy in the side channel that runs to the east towards Swanick???(I think). An hour later 44-011 was stood down having been of service to the end and a crew from Arklow had carried out a rescue a long way from home. I believe that she was also funded by the Mayor of Poole Appeal so it was fitting that her last action was in Poole.
As an aside the RNLB Augustine Courtauld 44-011 was stationed at Arklow before it was sold out of service.
I was cox on the passage to Poole where she was to be decommissioned. On approach to the chain ferry at Poole we were alerted by the CG to a windsurfer in difficulty inside the harbour. We picked him up off a porthand bouy in the side channel that runs to the east towards Swanick???(I think). An hour later 44-011 was stood down having been of service to the end and a crew from Arklow had carried out a rescue a long way from home. I believe that she was also funded by the Mayor of Poole Appeal so it was fitting that her last action was in Poole.
Kukri
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What a nice story. I think Courtauld would have appreciated that!
