steve yates
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In case the mooring doesn't hold? Or vice versa, can you anchor and hook up to a mooring as backup if your anchor drags?
Can you lay an anchor at the same time as tying up to a mooring?
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Sticky Fingers
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I guess you could. I would also guess you'd risk your anchor getting entangled in the ground tackle for the moorings...
Kelpie
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As Scala says, you're risking hooking the ground chain of the mooring and losing your anchor. You could set a tripping line on it obviously but it's not a guarantee.
If you know the mooring really well, and know where the chain goes, you might be OK- provided nothing drags- but I guess you'd think about this in the context of an unknown and untrusted mooring.
It would be safer to set up a shore line or simply anchor away from the mooring, if there's space.
If you know the mooring really well, and know where the chain goes, you might be OK- provided nothing drags- but I guess you'd think about this in the context of an unknown and untrusted mooring.
It would be safer to set up a shore line or simply anchor away from the mooring, if there's space.
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Often done in the Caribbean where the wind is almost always Easterly.
In places where the wind is variable or you have a reversing tide the rodes will get twisted giving you problems when it is time to leave.
In places where the wind is variable or you have a reversing tide the rodes will get twisted giving you problems when it is time to leave.
lpdsn
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You'd have to consider all the factors. e.g. what happens if the tide or wind changes.
You'd also have to think through how the other boats will behave if there are others nearby.
You could always negotiate a discount from the HM for a bulk purchase and tie up to two. Some places fore and aft moorings are the norm so you can skip the negotiation. Multiple moorings might have a common cause failure though if the whole trots goes.
You'd also have to think through how the other boats will behave if there are others nearby.
You could always negotiate a discount from the HM for a bulk purchase and tie up to two. Some places fore and aft moorings are the norm so you can skip the negotiation. Multiple moorings might have a common cause failure though if the whole trots goes.
noelex
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The question is very understandable. I always feel safer lying to my own ground tackle than on an unknown mooring.
But this is the problem of using both.
But this is the problem of using both.
Trop Cher
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No, if you don't trust the mooring don't use it. I'm always amazed at people picking up any old mooring without knowing it's condition first.
steve yates
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The issue is I was given a mooring by chance in Fishguard after failing to reach Ramsey sound in time for slack water and bailing out ( f5-6 wind over tide) , but I am now stuck here for a week due to weather and having to work at the weekend. The harbour master says the mooring is only rated for up to f5 , it will be 6 tomorrow, ( actually 5-6 now out by strumblesnhead, but calm here) no prob as I am aboard, but also forecast to blow at the weekend and I need to leave for work. So, if I can anchor her as well , I thought that might reassure him.
Another thought, could I anchor her and tie her stern to the mooring?
If not, what's the best way to lay the anchor so it doesn't tangle in the mooring, 45 degrees?
Another thought, could I anchor her and tie her stern to the mooring?
If not, what's the best way to lay the anchor so it doesn't tangle in the mooring, 45 degrees?
davidej
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How would that be helpful? If the anchor doesn't hold you drift back onto a stern held mooring,
Sounds like a recipe for a bu**ers muddle.
[70521]
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An interesting concept.
What happens when a F8 comes in during the summer, does everybody move to another place? How do they rate the moorings to wind speed, boat weight or wave height?
mjcoon
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I remember shouting at a yacht arriving at the Greek harbour where we were parked. The harbour had converted to lazy lines, which is how we were moored. But the newcomers insisted on dropping an anchor despite our protests. So the next morning the harbour-master had to dive to disentangle their anchor, just as we tried to warn them...
Mike.
Malo37
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How can a mooring be rated for a f5 without consideration of the size and displacement of the vessel to be moored ?
Vega1447
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I had this "genius" idea once and suffered the consequence that you describe.
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Years ago, before formal moorings were so prolific, boats were routinely left at anchor. Two anchors were used in a tideway.
RupertW
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A concept we encountered for the first time this year when we moored up in a bay sheltered except from the northwest as a series of southeasterly squalls were due overnight. When we returned to the boat an hour before sunset we were told that we had to vacate the bouy (and the bay as the bouy field covered the whole area). All marinas within 90 minutes were full when we called so we had to go to a tiny marina in the dark 2 hours away behind a series of unlit rocks at the entrance and (as if we weren't stressed enough , wakeboardng wires across most of the bay this marina was in ).
Weird way to treat people and not a harbour I'd go back to.
bristoljim
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Are there not substantial moorings close to the main breakwater ?? talk to the HM
Jim
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