Can you get a chop saw with detachable saw?

[Murv]

So that you can use it as a circular saw as well?
I'm going to refit my old boat so may as well get some tools to do it properly.
Any recommendations, if so, for something functional but not pro quality?

 

[sailorman]

So that you can use it as a circular saw as well?
I'm going to refit my old boat so may as well get some tools to do it properly.
Any recommendations, if so, for something functional but not pro quality?

do you want a simple chop saw or a compound mitre saw the latter is better then buy a small skil saw look on http://cpc.farnell.com

 

[prv]

I've never come across one. I think trying to make a combination would compromise both tools - apart from having a circular blade (but usually of very different sizes) they don't have all that much in common. Better to buy separates, I reckon.

For what it's worth I don't think I've ever used my chopsaw for boat work.

Pete

 

[sailorman]

cpc have a 210 m/m compound saw for £64.97 ( might be + vat ) thats cheap
a 185 m/m power saw £45.85

 

[Murv]

Many thanks all.
As you can probably tell, I know nothing about DIY, I just assumed they were very similar.
Separates it is then!
It is a mitre saw I need as well, I need something to cut straight 45degree angles for corners of units etc (unless there's another way of doing it?)

 

[sarabande]

table top band saw for mitres and GP wood work.

Axminster if you are buying new.

http://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-hobby-series-awhbs250n-bandsaw


Though a skilled forumite has recommended Charnwood for a similar price

http://www.charnwood.net/shop/product/charnwood-8-bandsaw?cid=1&added

 

[sailorman]

Many thanks all.
As you can probably tell, I know nothing about DIY, I just assumed they were very similar.
Separates it is then!
It is a mitre saw I need as well, I need something to cut straight 45degree angles for corners of units etc (unless there's another way of doing it?)

a compound cuts horizontal & vertical angles at the same time. a chop saw just goes up & down with a vertical angle

 

[Daydream believer]

Draper make a mitre saw that flips over to make a table saw
I have had 2 & to be honest they are not up to careless professional works
However, ok for home use
A bit heavy to move about though

 

[Murv]

Great, thanks all. The bandsaw looks great, but I just don't have room for anything like that. Screwfix do a mitre compound saw (which sounds like what I need) for £50.00 that gets good reviews, I just need to find a cheap power saw now for cutting long straight edges

 

[sailorman]

Great, thanks all. The bandsaw looks great, but I just don't have room for anything like that. Screwfix do a mitre compound saw (which sounds like what I need) for £50.00 that gets good reviews, I just need to find a cheap power saw now for cutting long straight edges

Buy something use it sell it after job done

 

[ratbag]

if you havn't used these type of tools before get someone to give you advise on safe use. they can be leathal
tip 1 , before starting cut make sure blade is at full speed.
tip 2, gloves & glasses
tip 3, no loose clothing

 

[SvenH]

I'd say that if you are starting DIY as a novice that buying powertools will not bring you speed in your boat improvement.
Powertools will not make you better, only faster.

If you do not know what to do, then with powertools you will do that faster. You will turn expensive plywood in to scrap faster. You will cut of your fingers faster. And it will devalue your boat faster.

If you want the best speed, I think that taking a course in carpentry will save you the most time. And you will probably have a much better idea of what tools to buy.

But, if you must buy a power tool, for a boaty person I think nothing can beat a fein multimaster or the knock-offs you can buy now.

 

[prv]

I'd say that if you are starting DIY as a novice that buying powertools will not bring you speed in your boat improvement.
Powertools will not make you better, only faster.

That's true to an extent, but in my experience a router and the intelligent use of guides and jigs can substitute for an awful lot of skill (that I don't have) with plane and chisel. I wouldn't be without one for interior woodwork.

Pete

 

[Bojangles]

One of these would fit the bill, mitre saw and flip over to table saw, might find one on gumtree or ebay
http://www.my-tool-shed.co.uk/p1445...452&gpla=pla&gclid=CJGz267hobsCFQEXwwodqHEAqQ

 

[boguing]

I'm with Sven. A cheap machine tool will cut OK, but don't expect the guides or angle setting to be anything like good enough. Because you don't have the experience you will end up completely frustrated, and it's not even your fault. I needed to cut some 45 degree mitres in a rush, a friend let me use his cheapy compound saw. No problem thort I, there's a positive lock for 45 degs. Cut them all (20 odd bits of Oak that I'd profiled four times).

Nice quick job. Except that the positive lock is 44/46 degrees. Firewood. Bought a deWalt.

I learned the traditional way, hand tools first. Only when you use a properly sharpened tool can you actually feel the way the wood is to cut/plane/chisel. When you've got that, then onto to power. But as Sven said, hand tools can be as quick as power.

Buy a secondhand Makita/Hitachi/deWalt from eBay and you'll sell it again for the same as you paid for it. (As an eg. Makita 9401 4" belt sander is nearly £300 new. EBay tends to be £110/120. I know that because I bought one recently, after months of trying £90 max bids on at least a dozen!

 

[Murv]

Thanks all, and safety tips duly noted! I'm a real liability with anything spinning/sharp so I will be extra careful!!
Just to put this into context, it's a small, 30 Year old cruiser with a really dingy interior, the word "refit" is probably a bit grand for what I'm planning, it's more a case of replacing damaged panels etc really.
If it was a large, valuable boat then a carpentery course would be a good idea, but I'm just looking to tidy the thing up.
Worst ways, if I make a complete hash of things, I can just refit the old panels and be no worse off than I am now.
I don't really want to buy tools and sell on again, as they'll be handy things to have for any future projects.

Cheers,
Chris

 

[fitlike]

I find oscillating saws very useful when working on wooden boats, blades can be a little expensive. But for cutting along the shape of the hull, they are dead easy to use.

IM

 

[northwind]

if you havn't used these type of tools before get someone to give you advise on safe use. they can be leathal
tip 1 , before starting cut make sure blade is at full speed.
tip 2, gloves & glasses
tip 3, no loose clothing

Wearing gloves is lethal! Do not ever wear gloves operating a circular saw or router.

 

[sailorman]

Wearing gloves is lethal! Do not ever wear gloves operating a circular saw or router.

Even Pro`s cock-up
this was nearly life changing 2 yrs ago, i still shudder when i think about it, just missed the strings that work the fingers but they were clearly visible

 

[Kelpie]

My Dad lent me a cheapo Screwfix own-brand mitre saw, because he had bought another one from Lidl. The Screwfix one died within a week of me getting it. Made a noise as though the gearbox had swallowed a bag of gravel. His Lidl one is still going strong!
I replaced it with a second-hand Makita from eBay, £70, and it has been brilliant. Considerably more accurate cutting and I am much more confident that it is not going to act up.
IME you need to have a bit of confidence in tools that are as scary as this!