bye

[Mark-1]

Negativity Bias:


You won’t see it on Twitter, but not everything is as bleak as it seems

 

[[3889]]

Yeah you could have sub forums for:

People who own a boat but it hasn't been afloat for a long time.
People who don't own boats but charter them less than once a year.
People who dont own boats but charter them more than once a year.
People who sail on their friends boats.
People who are interested in sailing but don't know where to start.
People who used to own a boat but sold it.
People who don't own a boat yet but want to buy one.
People who have crew that sail topless but need to send a picture to prove it....

Cmon, put it down to seasonal grumps dashed with a germ of covid. It happens every year around this time, same old complaints.

Remember it could be worse, we got covid 21 to come yet. ??

What happened to Covid 20? What I would like is a forum with a strictly enforced policy of answering only the OP's question. So, if someone asks where to buy a road atlas for navigation on a Round Britain trip then either answer that question or STFU.

 

[capnsensible]

You might find one on eBay.

 

[Boathook]

What happened to Covid 20? What I would like is a forum with a strictly enforced policy of answering only the OP's question. So, if someone asks where to buy a road atlas for navigation on a Round Britain trip then either answer that question or STFU.

Halfords, WH Smith plus other stationers supply suitable road atlases ! OS seem to be quite good for rivers ..........

 

[Poignard]

What happened to Covid 20? What I would like is a forum with a strictly enforced policy of answering only the OP's question. So, if someone asks where to buy a road atlas for navigation on a Round Britain trip then either answer that question or STFU.

I could not agree more.

A prime example is my asking for specific advice about lifting a dinghy on board using a halyard. Amongst the many helpful replies was one from a clown telling me I was a weakling for not being able to lift it on board without using a halyard. I had then to point out that I was 80 years old and had not long since had a major back operation, and whilst I had for most of my sailing life been able to lift a dinghy on board unaided, the time was not far off when I might no longer be able to do so.

 

[capnsensible]

I could not agree more.

A prime example is my asking for specific advice about lifting a dinghy on board using a halyard. Amongst the many helpful replies was one from a clown telling me I was a weakling for not being able to lift it on board without ausing a halyard. I had to then point out that I was 80 years old and had not long since had a major back operation, and whilst I had for most of my sailing life been able to lift a dinghy on board unaided, the time was not far off when I might no longer be able to do so.

Simply sink the yacht, position the dinghy where you want and pump the water out again.

 

[Boathook]

Simply sink the yacht, position the dinghy where you want and pump the water out again.

Easier to use a halyard imho as I have 2 hulls to sink and pump out.

 

[V1701]

Sorry to hear & I know where you're coming from. My strategy is sticking to PBO, Scuttlebutt and Liveaboard only and ignoring the posts of the usual suspects...

 

[Wansworth]

A “man” who could be a young man may have been shipped for cruises as the social classes knew their place he would be content in the focsle of you Twister I’m sure?(in another time)

 

[wully1]

Its not that bad. In addition Oyster are on the up big time, looking to hire 30+ people. Shame there is a shortage of skilled trades

Our local boatyard is also recruiting which is great news.

 

[rogerthebodger]

I could not agree more.

Amongst the many helpful replies was one from a clown telling me I was a weakling for not being able to lift it on board without using a halyard.

Using our intelligence to make life easy for ourselves different us from the rest of the animal kingdom. I am always finding ways to make lifting/moving anything easy even to the point of making a launching trolley for my dingy I normally store on deck. The trolley is used when I store it on land.

We use pullies and winches to raise sails /control sail sheets etc..

I also use a halyard to lift my dingy onto my foredeck and use a trolley on my spinnaker pole to save manually pushing the dingy into it securing blocks.

Any constructive comments are welcome but but any nonconstructive comment should be treated as such not only not helpful but causes the action by the OP and may be others who have just left without any departure comment.

Comments like above makes me wander that the motive of that clown is ?

 

[Poignard]

[...]

Comments like above makes me wander that the motive of that clown is ?

Just showing off, I suppose.

 

[Old Fozzy]

You have my sympathy. I recently joined, but am none too impressed so far. Too many opinions, not enough knowledge.

 

[rogerthebodger]

Just showing off, I suppose.

Yes I think that is one of the motives but I think there are more in terms of lack of self conference or overly conference in their abilities like the Dunning Kruger effect or the Paul Graham's pyramid of disagreement

 

[[3889]]

View attachment 104860
Halfords, WH Smith plus other stationers supply suitable road atlases ! OS seem to be quite good for rivers ..........

See what I mean? You have to bring OS maps into it

 

[Capt Popeye]

Its not that bad. In addition Oyster are on the up big time, looking to hire 30+ people. Shame there is a shortage of skilled trades

yep very good news about Oyster then, does it show or demonstrate that quality has its place in the market, whichever the market is;

Only quibble is that comment about lack of skilled trades; I understand that today employers and others expect that 'someone else' will take the time, money to train the various trades, might suggest that if company like 'Oyster' is in need of trades, then they themselves should have already trained them ready for their need; maybe its a variation of that dreaded JiT idea or 'mantra', 'Just in Time' as that saying goes; Years ago it was considered the norm for Companies to train via Student and Apprenticeships thus bringing along new blood into their business to carry on that business through Expansion, Retirement, Death and Moving on; might suggest that it was a way of Business when Businesses were run by Managers, not ?

 

[Scolly]

yep very good news about Oyster then, does it show or demonstrate that quality has its place in the market, whichever the market is;

Only quibble is that comment about lack of skilled trades; I understand that today employers and others expect that 'someone else' will take the time, money to train the various trades, might suggest that if company like 'Oyster' is in need of trades, then they themselves should have already trained them ready for their need; maybe its a variation of that dreaded JiT idea or 'mantra', 'Just in Time' as that saying goes; Years ago it was considered the norm for Companies to train via Student and Apprenticeships thus bringing along new blood into their business to carry on that business through Expansion, Retirement, Death and Moving on; might suggest that it was a way of Business when Businesses were run by Managers, not ?

Spot on.. Shortage of trained people in the east of England (0r anywhere) caused by short term thinking of businesses run by bean counters not business men. Part of the problem with a serviced based economy that requires bodies not skills to operate. Nobody learns to make anything anymore, apart from fast food or sell imported cheap garbage.

 

[Mataji]

This place isn’t perfect but compared to the various sailing groups on Facebook it is brilliant.

 

[Stemar]

Too many opinions, not enough knowledge.

The very definition of an internet forum

In fact, there's a LOT of knowledge here, and a few real experts. The trick, as ever, is to work out who they are, which isn't helped by the fact that, very often, there are two or more ways of doing something, neither is wrong, but mixing them could get messy!

 

[RichardS]

I recently joined, but am none too impressed so far. Too many opinions, not enough knowledge.

The answer to that is to simply to take the time to gain the experience to facilitate your transfer from the "opinions" category to the "knowledge" category.

In my case, that's 55 years of spannering ....... but you might be a quicker learner.

Richard