Refueler
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But Part 1 needs survey ..... been all through this when my SSR was refused due to no longer having UK address.
There are many registers that do not need survey .. are simply online exercise ....
Buying boat in Greece, from Sweden, how to deal with registration
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But Part 1 needs survey ..... been all through this when my SSR was refused due to no longer having UK address.
There are many registers that do not need survey .. are simply online exercise ....
Refueler
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Just to add :
When I wanted to renew my SSR ... knowing I was in default over no address in UK ... I put my UK resident son as co-owner .... still refused. They could not issue SSR with my name mentioned as I could not produce utility bills / UK address etc.
They advised me to consider Pt 1 ..... and I had long chat with Pt 1 office .... and decided against it. They stated that a Tonnage Survey would be needed along with creating the 64ths shareholding. Not such a big deal in UK ... but I was not about to pay for a bloke to fly into Latvia for a survey !
Latvian survey took all of 10mins ... couple of beers .... certificate issued by SSR that showed cancellation of Registry.
vyv_cox
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I needed Part 1 registration when I bought the boat with loaned funding in 1994. It seemed worth keeping so I never went to SSR .
Refueler
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Understood .... Credit / Mortgage ...
All my boats have been cash deals so never needed any registration ....
Tranona
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I know that and made the point more than once in this thread. The interest for the OP is that Part 1 is an open register with no residential or citizenship requirements so he can register his boat on it - see post#4. However as I pointed out it may cause difficulties in Greece owing to their local law which limits freedom of movement contrary to EU law.
The registers that do not require surveys are not registers of title that allow charges to be registered against the title. The survey is part of the mechanism that determines the title is sound.
The SSR is specifically for UK residents owning private small yachts and has no connection with Part 1. All it does is confirm the boat is considered a British Ship for the purposes of visits outside UK territorial waters, and introduced over 30 years ago primarily at the request of the French government as their maritime law says all visiting vessels must have evidence of flag state. IT seems the Swedish one does much the same and may well be the answer for the OP.
Tranona
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I suspect the reference to the EU is a red herring (almost literally!) as I believe those cases are nothing to do with either commercial shipping or private yachts but to do with allocation of fishing quotas under the common fisheries policy. The EU has no competence over registration of commercial or private vessels.
Just today I sailed past Condor of the Islands - the latest ferry that services the Channel Islands. Registered in Nassau - owned by an Anglo French company, which also operates 3 fast Cats registered in Singapore. So nothing new about there not being a connection between the citizenship of the owner and the boat.
Refueler
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Please do not make the mistake of Registry / Ownership ...
The reason the Ferry can carry Nassau Flag is because she is running to / from a UK Dependent Territory - not a full UK state territory. If CI was a full UK state territory - then it would not be allowed without special dispensation. Which is very hard to get.
Its why Isle of Man registered vessels can have Red Ensign but manned by non Brits - same reason.
Why would Swedish Cruising Assoc tell a porky ??
Refueler
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Swedish Registration via Swedish Cruising Assoc requires Bill of Sale to be lodged and verifiable. The Application unlike SSR actually does require ownership stated.
Think this thread has enough info for OP to decide ....