Bursledon bridge Hamble

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I am moving to a boatyard above Bursledon bridge and I was wondering what the clearance would be at the highest tide. My radar tower does fold down but its a bit of a faff to do it.
 
At the highest tide there will be no clearance for you.

I had a sports boat north of the bridge for a while and high tide, even on neaps was a no no.

You are probably looking at access up to 2 hours either side of hw
 
Whitelighter spot on, it will restrict your coming and going a fair bit. Volvopaul of this parish keeps his boat at Cabin Boat yard so will be able to advise what restrictions he experiences with his similar size Flybridge Mobo.

...but welcome to the Hamble!
 
I went to eastlands for a few days to try it, it was even more difficult there

high water = not enough air draft

low water = not enough water

Somewhere in the middle was possible with heart thumping risk of damage but plenty manage it :)
 
Firefly625 said:
Whitelighter spot on, it will restrict your coming and going a fair bit. Volvopaul of this parish keeps his boat at Cabin Boat yard so will be able to advise what restrictions he experiences with his similar size Flybridge Mobo.

...but welcome to the Hamble!
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Thanks for the welcome we are looking forward to the move from Shamrock quay after many years mooring there. Nice marina awfull position.Some of the reasons for the move are that it will cut out the 8 mile round trip from the Itchen to the Hamble cardinal and back. I don't count the trip from Shamrock to its junction with Southampton Water as there is not much difference between Hamble cardinal and Bursledon they cancel each other out. The rising cost of fuel coupled with cheaper moorings also played a part. I will miss the slightly cheaper fuel and the free moorings at other MDL marina's.I did the maths and I will be much better off being closer to the Solent.We always had to do the trip to get anywhere anyway.
 
mad_boater said:
The rising cost of fuel coupled with cheaper moorings also played a part. I will miss the slightly cheaper fuel and the free moorings at other MDL marina's.I did the maths and I will be much better off being closer to the Solent.We always had to do the trip to get anywhere anyway.
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Almost exactly the same logic as our move from Northney to Gosport. We nearly always exit Chi and head west either into or through the Solent. Our move will save about £40 everytime we go out and also a consideable amount of time by cutting out the run through Chi harbour, pleasant though it is, plus the berthing is a grand less. The minus as you say is loss of fuel at cost and MDL free nights (though we used few), and an extra 20 minutes in the car to get to the Gosport marina.

We did consider Eastlands, but SWMBO wasn't all that keen preferring better facilities and a marina.
 
I think you'll find it's a lot further from Hamble Cardinal to Bursledon Bridge than it is from Weston to Shamrock.

Can't disagree about the trip from Weston to Calshot though (mind you it only takes me 15 mins :D)
 
Many years ago, I bought our first ever seagoing boat a Sealine 305, from the Sealine dealer who used to operate from Swanwick boatyard just upstream. For our first trip out on our new boat, I planned the trip meticulously based on prevailing tides and having plenty of water under the keel but it never occurred to me that the height of Bursleden bridge might be a problem. When we had seatrialled the boat, I didn't realise that we had gone under the bridge near low water. Anyway, we cast off an hour or two after high water and on a fast ebbing tide approached Bursleden bridge. My mate was helming the boat from the flybridge and I was standing next to him. My SWMBO was on the foredeck coiling up ropes and putting away fenders; she suddenly started shouting and pointing upwards but we couldn't hear her above the racket of the engines and I told my mate to ignore her. After all what do women know about helming boats? A few seconds later we started to nose under Bursleden bridge and I finally realised what my SWMBO was getting so aeriated about. We were too high to get under the bridge. My mate slammed the boat into reverse but it was too late. The boat was slewed sideways by the tide and the radar arch crashed into the underside of the bridge slicing off the very substantial Koden radar dome and VHF/Decca aerials and bending the stainless steel radar arch. I later found out that the radar dome had plummeted into the cockpit below and whacked the head of my mate's girlfriend's dog. We eventually extricated ourselves and limped back to the marina to survey the damage. The dog was cowering under the saloon table, reasoning I guess that it was the only safe place to hide from massive objects falling out of the sky. My mate's girlfriend refused to come on the boat ever again
Moral of the story: look up as well as down when you're boating
 
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Many years ago, I bought our first ever seagoing boat a Sealine 305, from the Sealine dealer who used to operate from Swanwick boatyard just upstream. For our first trip out on our new boat, I planned the trip meticulously based on prevailing tides and having plenty of water under the keel but it never occurred to me that the height of Bursleden bridge might be a problem. When we had seatrialled the boat, I didn't realise that we had gone under the bridge near low water. Anyway, we cast off an hour or two after high water and on a fast ebbing tide approached Bursleden bridge. My mate was helming the boat from the flybridge and I was standing next to him. My SWMBO was on the foredeck coiling up ropes and putting away fenders; she suddenly started shouting and pointing upwards but we couldn't hear her above the racket of the engines and I told my mate to ignore her. After all what do women know about helming boats? A few seconds later we started to nose under Bursleden bridge and I finally realised what my SWMBO was getting so aeriated about. We were too high to get under the bridge. My mate slammed the boat into reverse but it was too late. The boat was slewed sideways by the tide and the radar arch crashed into the underside of the bridge slicing off the very substantial Koden radar dome and VHF/Decca aerials and bending the stainless steel radar arch. I later found out that the radar dome had plummeted into the cockpit below and whacked the head of my mate's girlfriend's dog. We eventually extricated ourselves and limped back to the marina to survey the damage. The dog was cowering under the saloon table, reasoning I guess that it was the only safe place to hide from massive objects falling out of the sky. My mate's girlfriend refused to come on the boat ever again
Moral of the story: look up as well as down when you're boating
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Sorry to smile at someones elses misfortune Mike but you story has just bought a smile to an otherwise awful day! thank you!!

Good lesson to learn from someone else mind!! :p
 
I tried it under the bridge, with my F43. I didnt last more than a few months !
You have to go/return mid flood or ebb, not for me thank you........
 
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Many years ago, I bought our first ever seagoing boat a Sealine 305, from the Sealine dealer who used to operate from Swanwick boatyard just upstream. For our first trip out on our new boat, I planned the trip meticulously based on prevailing tides and having plenty of water under the keel but it never occurred to me that the height of Bursleden bridge might be a problem. When we had seatrialled the boat, I didn't realise that we had gone under the bridge near low water. Anyway, we cast off an hour or two after high water and on a fast ebbing tide approached Bursleden bridge. My mate was helming the boat from the flybridge and I was standing next to him. My SWMBO was on the foredeck coiling up ropes and putting away fenders; she suddenly started shouting and pointing upwards but we couldn't hear her above the racket of the engines and I told my mate to ignore her. After all what do women know about helming boats? A few seconds later we started to nose under Bursleden bridge and I finally realised what my SWMBO was getting so aeriated about. We were too high to get under the bridge. My mate slammed the boat into reverse but it was too late. The boat was slewed sideways by the tide and the radar arch crashed into the underside of the bridge slicing off the very substantial Koden radar dome and VHF/Decca aerials and bending the stainless steel radar arch. I later found out that the radar dome had plummeted into the cockpit below and whacked the head of my mate's girlfriend's dog. We eventually extricated ourselves and limped back to the marina to survey the damage. The dog was cowering under the saloon table, reasoning I guess that it was the only safe place to hide from massive objects falling out of the sky. My mate's girlfriend refused to come on the boat ever again
Moral of the story: look up as well as down when you're boating
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just aswell the dog was there, the radar dome might of keeped going through the hull !!!!!!....... moral of the story: dogs on board are very usefull in an air attack situation!!!!
 
Im here as stated by Firefly, and moved to Eastlands from Shamrock (a story I wont get into) but moved as soon as I could to Cabin boatyard which is a very friendly yard, family run, ive been told a sealine from Shamrock was coming here so id guess its you? F43 maybe.

What I will say is as already said the bridge for any flybridge boat is VERY restrictive on your movement and can scupper a weekend out if you cant work the tides from when you arrive to need to leave at a certain time to go home which sums me up im afraid.

Ill give you an example, I need to be leaving at 3.30pm latest on a sunday so need a tide that gives lowish water around that time which usually has to be low water not after HW because the stand at HW is long, take a look at your plotter, see the curve, the HW stand is quite long sometimes, which also applies if you miss the bridge on a sat AM wanting to go out.

Another example, we like Bembridge but its a difficult one unless you have a weekend where the tides flooding, get out under the bridge to cruise nicely on a rising tide to get into Bembridge.

However coming back is a different story sometimes, eg, if its flooding in at Bembridge its got to be a fast cruise to beat the flood to the bridge, which quite frankly on a nice day spoils it for us.

I can lower part of my arch, I use the tidal graph more and know anything over 3.8m over datum ive shot it getting under, which can mean a long wait as iv said the tide stands at HW, ive often sat on the back of my boat looking at the flow or the lack of it.

Another side to being here is entering and leaving the berth when its flowing can be difficult as the tide pushes you on to the pontoon, as the boats inline with other boats there isnt much room for error, also if its ebbing and your not sure about bridge height its too late when you get to the bridge to try and reverse into the current, although it can be an aid when entering your berth sometimes, but not easy when the tides flooding as its on the stern, you can turn round at the railway bridge but we have been told to moor bows upstream now for some reason.

Lastly, shop around for deals as its nearly end of March, plenty of empty berths all over th place, sooner or later someone is going to break and start to fill there marinas again.

I could have moved to Port Solent on an 18 month deal for less than im paying here now.

As they say you pays your money and all that.
 
volvopaul said:
Im here as stated by Firefly, and moved to Eastlands from Shamrock (a story I wont get into) but moved as soon as I could to Cabin boatyard which is a very friendly yard, family run, ive been told a sealine from Shamrock was coming here so id guess its you? F43 maybe.

What I will say is as already said the bridge for any flybridge boat is VERY restrictive on your movement and can scupper a weekend out if you cant work the tides from when you arrive to need to leave at a certain time to go home which sums me up im afraid.

Ill give you an example, I need to be leaving at 3.30pm latest on a sunday so need a tide that gives lowish water around that time which usually has to be low water not after HW because the stand at HW is long, take a look at your plotter, see the curve, the HW stand is quite long sometimes, which also applies if you miss the bridge on a sat AM wanting to go out.

Another example, we like Bembridge but its a difficult one unless you have a weekend where the tides flooding, get out under the bridge to cruise nicely on a rising tide to get into Bembridge.

However coming back is a different story sometimes, eg, if its flooding in at Bembridge its got to be a fast cruise to beat the flood to the bridge, which quite frankly on a nice day spoils it for us.

I can lower part of my arch, I use the tidal graph more and know anything over 3.8m over datum ive shot it getting under, which can mean a long wait as iv said the tide stands at HW, ive often sat on the back of my boat looking at the flow or the lack of it.

Another side to being here is entering and leaving the berth when its flowing can be difficult as the tide pushes you on to the pontoon, as the boats inline with other boats there isnt much room for error, also if its ebbing and your not sure about bridge height its too late when you get to the bridge to try and reverse into the current, although it can be an aid when entering your berth sometimes, but not easy when the tides flooding as its on the stern, you can turn round at the railway bridge but we have been told to moor bows upstream now for some reason.

Lastly, shop around for deals as its nearly end of March, plenty of empty berths all over th place, sooner or later someone is going to break and start to fill there marinas again.

I could have moved to Port Solent on an 18 month deal for less than im paying here now.

As they say you pays your money and all that.
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Thanks for all of that advise.My boat is a Sealine 360 Statesman with an airdraught of 3.9mtr radar tower up 3.5mtr down, I don't know what yours is.Luckily I am retired so time is not of the essence.The mooring in strong currents may cause some consternation as I am still not use to the fact that this boat does not have a keel as my old Birchwood 35s had.I had a bow thuster fitted 2010 which I am still trying to master it usefully.I am used to bridges though as I kept a boat on the Avon at Tewksury for many years. There is a very low bridge (king Johns) we used to pass under to get onto the Severn and it is at an angle to the flow but probably not such strong currents as up there.
We will just have to see how we get on I suppose everthing has its drawbacks.
Look foward to meeting you we are comming on the 25 march.
 
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I later found out that the radar dome had plummeted into the cockpit below and whacked the head of my mate's girlfriend's dog.
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There you go, who said radar couldn't cause damage to the head?

Fab story Mike. Bet you're glad it was then and not now cos you'd have been a youtube star for absolutely certain. :D
 
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