pistonbroke
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Just been looking at the Rib.net forum, horrified to read that they are nominating Alan Priddy for the Yachtsmen Award, surely there is someone more deserving.
Any one got an idea?
Any one got an idea?
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DepSol
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WHY NOT?
He and his crew have been through hell and back. Or should they give it to Ellen again? about time a motorboater got the award.
Go on who would you nominate and why?
Dom
I am boating again ;-)
He and his crew have been through hell and back. Or should they give it to Ellen again? about time a motorboater got the award.
Go on who would you nominate and why?
Dom
I am boating again ;-)
pistonbroke
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Because as wonderful as some people think Priddy is, I believe in honouring success not failure.
How about Steve Curtis, just been nominated World Class 1 Powerboat Champion for the 4th time, or Mike Deacon for his record run around Great Britain in a RHIB.
How about Steve Curtis, just been nominated World Class 1 Powerboat Champion for the 4th time, or Mike Deacon for his record run around Great Britain in a RHIB.
DepSol
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Yep those are worthy awards. But I dont think that it should be decided on success. Priddy done the round Britain thing so why didnt he get it then?
Dom
I am boating again ;-)
Dom
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pistonbroke
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Priddy
I think you will find that the "round britain thing" is a speed record attempt, and as Priddy seems to go everywhere at around 17 knots he would find it difficult to qualify.
In fact, he was reminded of this at the RYA Powerboat awards dinner a couple of years ago when he was collecting an award for another one of his "achievments".
When the commentator anounced that at 17 knots he really ought to consider leaving for his next record attempt after the evening had finished, mr priddy and his entire table walked out, showing that he doesn't have a sense of humour either.
I think you will find that the "round britain thing" is a speed record attempt, and as Priddy seems to go everywhere at around 17 knots he would find it difficult to qualify.
In fact, he was reminded of this at the RYA Powerboat awards dinner a couple of years ago when he was collecting an award for another one of his "achievments".
When the commentator anounced that at 17 knots he really ought to consider leaving for his next record attempt after the evening had finished, mr priddy and his entire table walked out, showing that he doesn't have a sense of humour either.
EME
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Steve Curtis
For being to hell and back several times , for overcoming the BIG money, for sticking at it , for nearly killing himself last year and coming back....
straight race him and Ms McArthur ... who is Alan Priddy? Is he the guy who hit the fishfarm?
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For being to hell and back several times , for overcoming the BIG money, for sticking at it , for nearly killing himself last year and coming back....
straight race him and Ms McArthur ... who is Alan Priddy? Is he the guy who hit the fishfarm?
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byron
RIP
"Steve Curtis" God! I remember baby-sitting him while his Dad (Clive) helped prepare Penthouse-Rizla for a race. He must have been about 10 years old then. Anyways! To keep him occupied I loaned him a speargun and looked on in horror as he shot it right through the hull of another boat. Jeeze! I feel old now. /forums/images/icons/crazy.gif
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EME
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Olde Father Thames..
I guess I've been surprised if you hadn't known him..
Happen to believe his achievments haven't really been appreciated in the UK , particularly the News Media, perhaps his fault for not using the PR services of his erstwhile babysitter !
Two questions, a) why would anyone let a 10 yr old play with a spear gun? b) Was he really that competitive at that age to take out the competition?
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I guess I've been surprised if you hadn't known him..
Happen to believe his achievments haven't really been appreciated in the UK , particularly the News Media, perhaps his fault for not using the PR services of his erstwhile babysitter !
Two questions, a) why would anyone let a 10 yr old play with a spear gun? b) Was he really that competitive at that age to take out the competition?
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byron
RIP
Re: Olde Father Thames..
Good question, Answer to (A) It was stupid of me
Incidentally you realise who his father (Clive Curtis) is? he is the founder of Cougar Marine, Couger Cats are famous the world over as thoroughbred race boats.
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Good question, Answer to (A) It was stupid of me
Incidentally you realise who his father (Clive Curtis) is? he is the founder of Cougar Marine, Couger Cats are famous the world over as thoroughbred race boats.
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tcm
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Babysitting Stories please!
Cripes! Mr curtiss should have an award as Babysitting Survivor. Any more fun events from you babysitting exploits, Byron? I thought I was being overcautious with babysitters telling them not to let the kids get hold of any of the axes out of the garage. Oops! I was going to keep that quiet...
Cripes! Mr curtiss should have an award as Babysitting Survivor. Any more fun events from you babysitting exploits, Byron? I thought I was being overcautious with babysitters telling them not to let the kids get hold of any of the axes out of the garage. Oops! I was going to keep that quiet...
sailbadthesinner
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Re: Did he get invited to the sponsor\'s parties
Penthouse Rizla
now that would have been some corporate party that would
stories of that please.
Come on brain.get this over and i can go back to killing you with beer
Penthouse Rizla
now that would have been some corporate party that would
stories of that please.
Come on brain.get this over and i can go back to killing you with beer
EME
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Re: Olde Father Thames..
Wow, appreciated who Cougar Marine were , read somewhere that Steve (if I may be so bold) had spent sometime around the US racing scene , but didn't appreciate who Dad was..
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Wow, appreciated who Cougar Marine were , read somewhere that Steve (if I may be so bold) had spent sometime around the US racing scene , but didn't appreciate who Dad was..
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adarcy
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Re: WHY NOT ?????????
Dom
I have carefully kept out of the pro and anti argument - sorry appreciation of Priddy and his attempt on a speed record. I do not know him, I have no inside information on the inner workings of his team or his expectation regarding this attempt. However, I did read of his navigation in MBY - sleeping and relying on a mobile phone system to work and wake him up before he hits a coast !! Jeez, he certainly ain't taking me anywhere!
Now if that sort of bravery qualifies for an award...........
But he had navigation (fish farm) problems, planning (customs) problems, backup and money problems but worst of all, he was always going too slowly - if you're not well ahead of schedule in the easy bit (UK to Red Sea) perhaps one should give up rethink plan again and try later.
Now which bit of these should he get an award for?
You may not believe me but I do not dislike him (how can I, I have never met him) nor do I ilke kicking people when they are 'down' but honestly I think almost EVERYONE else who goes boating should be ahead of Mr. Priddy when it comes to getting an award as a yachtsman stinkie, ragpot or raggie.
What I would like to know is exactly WHY you think he should get the award, apart from you saying he is a motorboater.
Dom
I have carefully kept out of the pro and anti argument - sorry appreciation of Priddy and his attempt on a speed record. I do not know him, I have no inside information on the inner workings of his team or his expectation regarding this attempt. However, I did read of his navigation in MBY - sleeping and relying on a mobile phone system to work and wake him up before he hits a coast !! Jeez, he certainly ain't taking me anywhere!
Now if that sort of bravery qualifies for an award...........
But he had navigation (fish farm) problems, planning (customs) problems, backup and money problems but worst of all, he was always going too slowly - if you're not well ahead of schedule in the easy bit (UK to Red Sea) perhaps one should give up rethink plan again and try later.
Now which bit of these should he get an award for?
You may not believe me but I do not dislike him (how can I, I have never met him) nor do I ilke kicking people when they are 'down' but honestly I think almost EVERYONE else who goes boating should be ahead of Mr. Priddy when it comes to getting an award as a yachtsman stinkie, ragpot or raggie.
What I would like to know is exactly WHY you think he should get the award, apart from you saying he is a motorboater.
byron
RIP
Re: Olde Father Thames..
Steve grew up around the Hamble and his father's friends such as Freddy Beard, Tommy Sopwith Jnr. Max Aitkin and all the other 'names' of the 70s racing scene. It was only natural that he should be drawn in. His pals as a kid were all the sons (and daughters) of others in the race scene.
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Steve grew up around the Hamble and his father's friends such as Freddy Beard, Tommy Sopwith Jnr. Max Aitkin and all the other 'names' of the 70s racing scene. It was only natural that he should be drawn in. His pals as a kid were all the sons (and daughters) of others in the race scene.
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AJW
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Re: WHY NOT ?????????
I've met the man a couple of times, he's a genuinely nice guy but as such men and women are somewhat driven and focussed on what he and his crew tried to achieve. It has surprised and saddened me a little at the scorn that has been poured upon Alan and his venture on this forum. I know that the tone here is acerbic and witty but he has done a helluva lot more in his homemade boat than most of us will do in a lifetime.
Does anyone really believe that he navigated his way around the world by mobile phone? He does have strong and probably valid opinions about the use of electronic charts vs trad nav but many Mobo'ers would probably agree with him. (The raggies wouldn't of course!) The article in MBY was a tad tongue in cheek don't you think?
I nominated him, as a number of others through the rib.net forum have and I'll tell you why. He did it on a shoestring budget with no corporate sponsorship in a home completed RIB. He got most of the way around whilst fighting truly awful weather conditions and the odd spot of bad luck (like the fish farm incident.) And when it came to the short strokes his seamanship and leadership skills probably help save the life of Steve Tully when he had a heat attack 36hrs out from St Johns. He'd be back now if it werent for the damage that Spirit sustained in the bad weather ultimately putting the boat beyond repair for the trip back across the Atlantic. He didn't make any money out of the voyage, in fact it cost him and his crew dearly. He certainly didn't get much glory.
If the BT Marine awards are for winners then arguably there are other more deserving candidates. But for sheer pluck and having the balls to give it a go I think Alan and his crew deserve some recognition.
And incidentally I'd agree that Mike Deacon and crew also deserve nomination for their round britain record. (He also deserves it for a 40 odd mile tow at 20kts from somewhere off Stornoway to Kyle of Lochalsh when our drive failed this summer but thats another story..........) If you read the thread on rib.net you'll see that many are nominating him as well.
Course in the end it'll do no good. Ellen'll walk it!
AJ
I've met the man a couple of times, he's a genuinely nice guy but as such men and women are somewhat driven and focussed on what he and his crew tried to achieve. It has surprised and saddened me a little at the scorn that has been poured upon Alan and his venture on this forum. I know that the tone here is acerbic and witty but he has done a helluva lot more in his homemade boat than most of us will do in a lifetime.
Does anyone really believe that he navigated his way around the world by mobile phone? He does have strong and probably valid opinions about the use of electronic charts vs trad nav but many Mobo'ers would probably agree with him. (The raggies wouldn't of course!) The article in MBY was a tad tongue in cheek don't you think?
I nominated him, as a number of others through the rib.net forum have and I'll tell you why. He did it on a shoestring budget with no corporate sponsorship in a home completed RIB. He got most of the way around whilst fighting truly awful weather conditions and the odd spot of bad luck (like the fish farm incident.) And when it came to the short strokes his seamanship and leadership skills probably help save the life of Steve Tully when he had a heat attack 36hrs out from St Johns. He'd be back now if it werent for the damage that Spirit sustained in the bad weather ultimately putting the boat beyond repair for the trip back across the Atlantic. He didn't make any money out of the voyage, in fact it cost him and his crew dearly. He certainly didn't get much glory.
If the BT Marine awards are for winners then arguably there are other more deserving candidates. But for sheer pluck and having the balls to give it a go I think Alan and his crew deserve some recognition.
And incidentally I'd agree that Mike Deacon and crew also deserve nomination for their round britain record. (He also deserves it for a 40 odd mile tow at 20kts from somewhere off Stornoway to Kyle of Lochalsh when our drive failed this summer but thats another story..........) If you read the thread on rib.net you'll see that many are nominating him as well.
Course in the end it'll do no good. Ellen'll walk it!
AJ
adarcy
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Re: Still NOT I\'m afraid
AJ
Thanks for your considered reply, I do hope this fred does not descend into a personal slanging match if/when others contribute.
He may have << sheer pluck and having the balls >> to do something but I am afraid I do not think that is due an award because others - like me for instance- believe his attempt did not show the kind of careful planning and allowance for problems that a task such as this requires. Following your argument to its ridiculous extreme means admiring mad cap not planned but "brave" attempts at everything and I do not think you really mean that do you?
I also think, as I intimated before, I do not think it really seamanlike to carry on when problems of various sorts had made it obvious, to everyone else anyway, that the record was out of reach. After all, if at first you don't succeed - think again don't keep digging in the same hole.
Surely an award is for something well done or well-attempted - no?
Re MBY article. Hmm don't really remember it word for word, must read it again but I don't remember it as an obvious spoof. Then again, I may be literally gullible.
Anthony
AJ
Thanks for your considered reply, I do hope this fred does not descend into a personal slanging match if/when others contribute.
He may have << sheer pluck and having the balls >> to do something but I am afraid I do not think that is due an award because others - like me for instance- believe his attempt did not show the kind of careful planning and allowance for problems that a task such as this requires. Following your argument to its ridiculous extreme means admiring mad cap not planned but "brave" attempts at everything and I do not think you really mean that do you?
I also think, as I intimated before, I do not think it really seamanlike to carry on when problems of various sorts had made it obvious, to everyone else anyway, that the record was out of reach. After all, if at first you don't succeed - think again don't keep digging in the same hole.
Surely an award is for something well done or well-attempted - no?
Re MBY article. Hmm don't really remember it word for word, must read it again but I don't remember it as an obvious spoof. Then again, I may be literally gullible.
Anthony
jfm
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Re: unemotional view on priddy
AJW: I have no view on whether he is a nice guy, I have not met him, though the anecdote about him storming off from dinner becos of 17knot joke doesn't sound too nice. Duuno about truth of all that, so quite happy to give ben of doubt agree he is a nice guy (apols to PistonBroke - not doubting your word, but I'm not sure if you were relaying a 2nd hand story or if you were actually there at the dinner....)
But really, his attempts at the world record seem to suggest poor judgement and incompetence in relation to some of the important aspects of such a trip. I mean, running into a fishfarm, having to wait for spares for a bust outdrive, carrying on despite never making the right average speed, and running out of fuel money. Most of us wouldn't do those things. Dont see where "luck" figures here.
Your statement "he has done a helluva lot more in his homemade boat than most of us will do in a lifetime" is questionable. He has done more thrashing about in a RIB that most of us, but that's all.
He is treated as underdog becos no sponsorship. But sponsorship is there to be had for serious proposals and for people who go about getting it the right way. Eg Ellen MacArthur, C&W trimaran thingy.
This is 2002. Anyone who can scrape together enough diy time and £££ can get a RIB and do what Priddy did with a few mates. I admire his perseverance against obstacles, but not the fact those obstacles were often of his own making. What he has done does not deserve award/recognition of the type Ellen M desrves, imho.
Sorry, not picking on him, he can do what he likes and best of luck to him, I'm just being objective about whether he/Ellen M is special or not. He's an enthusiastic amateur who makes mistakes that ought not to be made, and I dont see how this deserves award etc..... Ellen is in contrast an outstanding sportswoman. Entirely imho
AJW: I have no view on whether he is a nice guy, I have not met him, though the anecdote about him storming off from dinner becos of 17knot joke doesn't sound too nice. Duuno about truth of all that, so quite happy to give ben of doubt agree he is a nice guy (apols to PistonBroke - not doubting your word, but I'm not sure if you were relaying a 2nd hand story or if you were actually there at the dinner....)
But really, his attempts at the world record seem to suggest poor judgement and incompetence in relation to some of the important aspects of such a trip. I mean, running into a fishfarm, having to wait for spares for a bust outdrive, carrying on despite never making the right average speed, and running out of fuel money. Most of us wouldn't do those things. Dont see where "luck" figures here.
Your statement "he has done a helluva lot more in his homemade boat than most of us will do in a lifetime" is questionable. He has done more thrashing about in a RIB that most of us, but that's all.
He is treated as underdog becos no sponsorship. But sponsorship is there to be had for serious proposals and for people who go about getting it the right way. Eg Ellen MacArthur, C&W trimaran thingy.
This is 2002. Anyone who can scrape together enough diy time and £££ can get a RIB and do what Priddy did with a few mates. I admire his perseverance against obstacles, but not the fact those obstacles were often of his own making. What he has done does not deserve award/recognition of the type Ellen M desrves, imho.
Sorry, not picking on him, he can do what he likes and best of luck to him, I'm just being objective about whether he/Ellen M is special or not. He's an enthusiastic amateur who makes mistakes that ought not to be made, and I dont see how this deserves award etc..... Ellen is in contrast an outstanding sportswoman. Entirely imho
