oakleyb
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I've just had a quick look at these, hunters seem very cheap and possibly worthwhile buying. Loads of wisdom from this forum would be helpfull./ Have you done this sort of thing or know somebody who has ?
Boats for sale USA
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PIGLETSDREAM
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Lots of choice, and generally same price for $ as it is in £'s, but you have an expensive flight, posibly more rushed becoause of the distance and time available to you, good old VAT to pay and of course you have to get it back to the UK. Now if you are off on your world trip and going to live aboard, then it makes sense cos one half of your journey is done and no vat or delivery to pay for.
We have been looking in Holland for a while and boats there do seem to be better value, or more realistically priced. Either way, the joy of this forum is that there are those who are thinking of doing it and there will be somebody who has done it. All the best and happy hunting.
We have been looking in Holland for a while and boats there do seem to be better value, or more realistically priced. Either way, the joy of this forum is that there are those who are thinking of doing it and there will be somebody who has done it. All the best and happy hunting.
Colin_S
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I expect Fatipa can help you but he appears to be awol - see thread below.
ChrisE
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They are cheap and as piglet says fine if you intend to keep it in the foriegn. Note, however that if you want to bring it back here, apart from the cost of getting it back and the inevitable VAT the craft has to be made RCD compliant which means shelling a fair few bob, as others have posted.
A couple of minor, though not insurmountable problems, US craft are 24v and use propane, whereas UK boats tend to be 12v and use butane.
If you have world girdling or Caribbean horizons, howver, the craft are v. good value and I have several friends who has bought craft in the states sailed them for a while then re-sold all without too much of a hitch.
Best of luck, whatever you decide.
A couple of minor, though not insurmountable problems, US craft are 24v and use propane, whereas UK boats tend to be 12v and use butane.
If you have world girdling or Caribbean horizons, howver, the craft are v. good value and I have several friends who has bought craft in the states sailed them for a while then re-sold all without too much of a hitch.
Best of luck, whatever you decide.
twisterkai
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RCD is the biggest rip-off and money making scam for certain 'specialist' companies. Unfortunately it was put together with very little input from the marine world, as far as I can tell, by another highly overpaid pen pusher in Brussels.
Boats in the US seem to be far more sensibly priced than over here, it's just very unfortunate that if you sail her back across the pond and keep her within the EEC you'll be breaking the law if you don't comply. All because some myopic pen pusher of questionable parentage won't accept that if a boat is capable of crossing the atlantic it's perfectly safe to use over here.......
Just be very careful if you do decide to buy over there & subsequently import that you really do know what it's going to cost you.
Good Luck!
Boats in the US seem to be far more sensibly priced than over here, it's just very unfortunate that if you sail her back across the pond and keep her within the EEC you'll be breaking the law if you don't comply. All because some myopic pen pusher of questionable parentage won't accept that if a boat is capable of crossing the atlantic it's perfectly safe to use over here.......
Just be very careful if you do decide to buy over there & subsequently import that you really do know what it's going to cost you.
Good Luck!
Norman_E
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There are quite a few EU built boats over there, most of which will be RCD compliant if built after June 1998, even though they may not have the plate that confirms it. For one of these boats it will be worthwhile contacting the manufacturer to see if they can supply a certificate & the plate for retro-fit. That will be much cheaper than having a complete RCD test and certification
aitchem
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Hi,
What about a european yacht in the USA.
What is the and RCD position on say a Moody 376 bought in the USA.?
Is VAT calculated on the purchase price.?
thx
aitchem
What about a european yacht in the USA.
What is the and RCD position on say a Moody 376 bought in the USA.?
Is VAT calculated on the purchase price.?
thx
aitchem
Sybarite
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It was recently announced that European legislation was going to be overhauled and in particular emphasis was being put on legislation that is over-intrusive. I believe that the RCD is an instance which merits revision especially where it involves re-importing European boats.
However it is more likely a disguised measure of protectionism for the Europea n boat building industry so I am not too optimistic about it. I wonder if the RYA has a viewpoint?
It's true there are apparently great bargains to be had even if VAT must be paid.
John
However it is more likely a disguised measure of protectionism for the Europea n boat building industry so I am not too optimistic about it. I wonder if the RYA has a viewpoint?
It's true there are apparently great bargains to be had even if VAT must be paid.
John
Sybarite
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VAT is calculated on the invoiced value of the boat when it's being imported. There are however areas where VAT is considerably cheaper eg Madeira.
Beware however; if for example the French customs believe that the invoiced amount does not represent the real value thay can exercise a pre-emptive right to acquire it at the declared value.
John
Beware however; if for example the French customs believe that the invoiced amount does not represent the real value thay can exercise a pre-emptive right to acquire it at the declared value.
John
Blueboatman
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Well worth speaking to Customs and Excise first because you will be asked for vat AND import duty,based upon what you paid for the boat .I know nothing about RCD.You may well want to do some trolling of the us yacht websites(eg Sail magazine,Cruising world) to determine which are the higher end manufacturers-there are many examples of quite big yachts manufactured in the us that were never intended for offshore work....And there is plenty of low grade stainless,plastic,rigging and alloy castings used on less expensive yachts ,so Caveat Emptor(Buyer beware,but of course you knew that !)Happy hunting. By the way i bought one us boat,had a lot of fun with it,but at the end of the day it was never going to be an ocean crosser.
