Boat sale hold up

[ashtead]

I cannot believe that an operator of a dry stack isn’t aware of transducer point. Is there no users association where you can raise issue as maybe other users have had the same issue. I think the survey aspect is a slight red herring hear - the boat was lifted and damaged by the yard as evidenced by surveyor . The damage is likely to be close to deductible or excess maybe ? I do wonder if a further discussion with the dry stack operator might illicit some offer of compensation. Surely no owner would want to stack their vessel at this yard if their approach became widely known?

 

[Portofino]

Did the “ service stack “ have a variable width adjustment?

There’s a lot of dry stack in yards in the Cannes area for day boats , from ribs to Rivas .
The racks look like they have some sort of width adjustment, just two rails the chines perch on .Similarly the massive Hyster fork lifts can adjust the fork width two ,
Thats fine in daylight as the fork lift driver can see and normally positions the forks on the outside of the rack supports .
So each boat must have a pretty large ish area on its lateral aspects for the rack and fork lift forks to sit .

Recovering them out of the water , he cannot see so I guess just sets the width based on pure luck ? Perhaps the expectation is there is a safe from fittings area on the lateral 1/3 rds of the hull? Dunno ?


I know on my boat all the sensitive through the hull stuff is in the middle 1/3 rd of the hull near the V .
When it’s lifted and blocked off the operator gets under before the final touchdown , to make sure the blocks / tripods are not on anything sensitive or a skin fitting ,I know this is easy for a regular lift .

So for me with a stack, it’s not quite that simple as they have rack rails ( which may be fixed ) on one hand and the forks on the other , which obviously can not be the same measurement as the rack , they either fit outside or inside ?
Thirdly as mentioned the “ service rack “ which again must be a different width to the truck forks .

So fo me if I ran a dry stack I would get the lawyers who knock up the contract to add in a kinda disclaimer centred around this .
Words to the effect of damage from either the rack supports , or truck forks and “ service rack “ due to pressure on [ insert through the hull fittings list ] is at the owners risk , as well as bird muck , insect ( bees nests ) and storm - wind damage ,
Further more the owners should check they are adequately insured etc etc .
As an example......say what if the boat on top springs an oil leak and it’s bilge pumps oil on the boats below‘s newly reupholstered cockpit ?? In the middle of the night .6 weeks later the damaged boat is lifted down ?

Stack operator can’t be held responsible.So we are back to your insurance.

To me folk damage or other latent hull damage is a tiny dry stack risk the owners have to shoulder , ie insure against

Otherwise the stack owner could be wiped out or any profit continuously attacked by claims .
Thats why they initially refuted this , they probably get quite a few owners with minor damage claims in a season .

 

[lionelz]

Well just to give you guys an update, having listened to advice I contacted my insurance company and explained the situation, I asked the marina to arrange to get a quote to get it fixed and they gave instructions to go ahead and get the work completed. After discussing with the insurance company, the surveyor who saw the boat being lifted and the marina, the marina are going to pay the invoice. The boat has now been fixed and the sale has been completed making me boatless I am now searching for a motorhome for my future adventures. Thanks for all the great advice and other opinions

 

[ontheplane]

I'm with the others.

Pay for the transducer, get the sale done.

At the same time, write to the surveyor who hopefully will allow you to use his evidence, and (unless you want to keep next boat there) then contact the marina saying that all the damage was observed by an independent third party and that you intend to claim for the damage.

Small claims track for £300 is not particularly dear, and I'd hope they would realise that going down that road would be pointless.

As an aside, I have issued a few small claims track processes over the years - in 4 or 5 of those cases, the company didn't even bother to reply, and lost by default - odd because it ended up costing them more than just paying up.

 

[Jamie Dundee]

I'm with the others.

Pay for the transducer, get the sale done.

At the same time, write to the surveyor who hopefully will allow you to use his evidence, and (unless you want to keep next boat there) then contact the marina saying that all the damage was observed by an independent third party and that you intend to claim for the damage.

Small claims track for £300 is not particularly dear, and I'd hope they would realise that going down that road would be pointless.

As an aside, I have issued a few small claims track processes over the years - in 4 or 5 of those cases, the company didn't even bother to reply, and lost by default - odd because it ended up costing them more than just paying up.

You didn’t read post #23, the last one before yours?

 

[rafiki_]

Well just to give you guys an update, having listened to advice I contacted my insurance company and explained the situation, I asked the marina to arrange to get a quote to get it fixed and they gave instructions to go ahead and get the work completed. After discussing with the insurance company, the surveyor who saw the boat being lifted and the marina, the marina are going to pay the invoice. The boat has now been fixed and the sale has been completed making me boatless I am now searching for a motorhome for my future adventures. Thanks for all the great advice and other opinions

Great result!

 

[ontheplane]

You didn’t read post #23, the last one before yours?

Nope!