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Hi,
I will try again....
been out the game for a couple of years but now have the itch again!
I recently viewed a boat which I found out ran aground.
It was repaired last year, new shaft etc. Engine mounts props etc.
How would this affect the purchase price and is it just best to leave it well alone?
thanks
Si
 
Soco2 said:
Hi,
I will try again....
been out the game for a couple of years but now have the itch again!
I recently viewed a boat which I found out ran aground.
It was repaired last year, new shaft etc. Engine mounts props etc.
How would this affect the purchase price and is it just best to leave it well alone?
thanks
Si
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That will be the Phantom 42 for a guess
 
jrudge said:
Speaking personally the big issue would be was the hull damaged ? If so I would not touch it.
If bolt on bolt off items that are simply replaced then subject to survey I don’t see the issue.
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Yeah I did ask but been told that it was repaired. Most bills showing bolt on bits etc.
Would you ever know if there was stress damage inside the ribs/stringers etc?
 
I would feel that it's a bit like buying a Cat D car, worthwhile if it was a decent margin less than a comparable non-damaged example. Also keeping in mind that the value reduction would also be a factor when selling. For me I would never buy a Cat C or D car, just becaue I would worry about shifting it.
 
That boat has a double skin with a liner glued to the outer hull .Separating the two skins is a grid of foam , a matrix .
When new it’s very strong and saves weight.
When “ injured “ its nye on impossible for a surveyor to check every foam part of the bonded in grid / matrix for delamination .
A surveyor s report ( for the sake of liability) will come back with many provisos and disclaimers .....ie tell you nothing as he can not commit , because he can,t access enough spaces between the outer hull laminate and inner hull liners to say yeh or neigh.

Having said that it might be perfectly fixed ......but you just don’t know or will never know for certain .
 
Portofino said:
That boat has a double skin with a liner glued to the outer hull .Separating the two skins is a grid of foam , a matrix .
When new it’s very strong and saves weight.
When “ injured “ its nye on impossible for a surveyor to check every foam part of the bonded in grid / matrix for delamination .
A surveyor s report ( for the sake of liability) will come back with many provisos and disclaimers .....ie tell you nothing as he can not commit , because he can,t access enough spaces between the outer hull laminate and inner hull liners to say yeh or neigh.

Having said that it might be perfectly fixed ......but you just don’t know or will never know for certain .
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Thank you, that’s informative and yes I would never know but it would always be in the back of my mind in a heavy sea!
 
Portofino said:
That boat has a double skin with a liner glued to the outer hull .Separating the two skins is a grid of foam , a matrix .
When new it’s very strong and saves weight.
When “ injured “ its nye on impossible for a surveyor to check every foam part of the bonded in grid / matrix for delamination .
A surveyor s report ( for the sake of liability) will come back with many provisos and disclaimers .....ie tell you nothing as he can not commit , because he can,t access enough spaces between the outer hull laminate and inner hull liners to say yeh or neigh.

Having said that it might be perfectly fixed ......but you just don’t know or will never know for certain .
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Please don't take any notice of this as Porto doesn't understand how Fairline boats are built. For example I can see most of my outer hull simply by lifting the hatches in the cabin floor.
 

See the yellow / green foam grid in the saloon .Engine compartment looks like it’s got a white linner ....inner skin .
Pete reckons he can access enough of the sq spaces between the two skins / layer to satisfy a inquisitive surveyor.
I disagree.





Red highlighted bit bottom LHS is a linner about to be dropped into the hull next door and glued down .
sure there will a few lift up floor hatches ......but you cant see everything.




Trad build example.Ply bulkheads + other bits glasses into a thicker out skin .Its easy for a surveyor to see for example if it’s coming apart from a knock / grounding or what ever .His report will come back with fewer disclaimers to make it meaningful in your evaluation wether to buy or walk .
 
ok Good to know, I’m satisfied it’s not for me speaking to others. so does anyone know what late 90’s PH42 are selling for?
 
Soco2, I'm assuming this Phantom 42 is with solent motor yachts, have you considered the Azimut 39 they also have listed, as the prices are similar, but the Azi looks in great condition without the damage / repairs to be concerned about.
 
Soco2 said:
Yep that’s it, but would you buy it?
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Nope because if you can find out that it was repaired after a severe grounding then so can anybody else, especially now that you've put this thread up on an open forum. The other thing you have to ask yourself is why the owner has put it up for sale so soon after the incident. Was he not happy with the repair?

Its not even as if the price is all that attractive either (if I'm looking at the right ad). With so many other nice sound boats out there on the market I'm not sure why you'd even consider this one
 
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