Boat owners and Crew - racing costs - who pays?

[ds797]

Just out of interest that all!

1 - Boat owner pays all expenses and pays crew
2 - Boat owner pays all expenses and gives food and drink to crew
3 - Boat owner pays all boat and race expenses and crew provide own food and drink or run a kitty to divide food costs
4 - Boat owner pays for boat expenses, crew split race entry costs, marina visitor costs, food and drink between them
5 - Boat owner asks for a "contribution" towards running expenses of the boat, crew split race entry costs, marina visitor costs, food and drink between them
6 - Boat costs are divided between crew and crew split race entry costs, marina visitor costs, food and drink between them (i.e. all costs shared)
7 - Boat is run as a share - running costs, capital cost of boat etc all shared between crew

I'm guessing most are either 4 or 5, with very few superyachts as a 1, and also few (guessing things like SB20, J70 etc) in the 7 category!

Just wondered!?!!

 

[flaming]

3 is most normal in my experience, with the additional "the crew feed the owner", and "the regular crew donate manpower to relocate, clean, inspect etc as necessary."

I have sailed on everything from 2+ (including dinner at the squadron etc) to 6 though. In my experience if the owner feels like he/she wants the crew to contribute to boat running costs or entry costs then a per day fixed rate is the only way that works, as anything else just gets stupidly complicated.

Also worth saying that the best crew know that there are plenty of boats out there that aren't going to charge them to sail.

 

[Ripster]

In my limited experience on a couple/three of racing crews, everyone brings a contribution to food and drink to add to the boats own larder and pays a small contribution towards expenses. Mind you I have been on one where the skipper wouldn't hear of his crew paying for anything and included dinner.

 

[lw395]

My experiences range from:
paying £10 to sit on the rail all the way to Alderney, then sail the boat back while everyone else is asleep...
to:
Paying all the entry fees etc, and providing food for 10 for RTIR on my own boat.

 

[jerrytug]

Good question, as crew it's been 3 and 2, in general.

 

[Birdseye]

I pay the bl**dy lot. In fact my crew also moan at the lack of skipper provided bacon sandwiches! Mind you we do have a good laugh.

The costs arent high. £20 for a series and the only damage done so far was paid for by the other boat. As for sails, well I would want decent sails for cruising anyway

And they do muck in with boat prep.

 

[bbg]

As crew 1, 2 and 3. As skipper I pay for food while on board and often one meal ashore. But since the crew is not large (i.e. one other person) that is not too much of a burden.

 

[lpdsn]

3 is most normal in my experience, with the additional "the crew feed the owner", and "the regular crew donate manpower to relocate, clean, inspect etc as necessary."

That's the norm in my experience, with a lot of emphasis on donating manpower.

I've had accommodation (hotels/rented house/bunkhouse) and some other expenses paid on one or two boats - also insisted on paying my own way whilst other crew have had expenses paid on another (that was fair given the various incomes/ages of the crew and the owner not being a millionaire). Also sailed on another couple where the owners usually picked up the tab for grub and beer (first couple of rounds anyway).

 

[savageseadog]

It depends on how many Scotsmen are in the crew

 

[pyrojames]

As skipper or crew 3 normally, and I usually throw in some beers and a meal at some stage during a regatta.

 

[Davegriff]

Only ever came across 2 & 3 in my very limited experience.