Boat in build pics (Squadron 78)

[jfm]

Jfm: did Lumishore fit the LED lights for you or did they supply & fairline fit?

Jon

A bit of both. Fairline fitted them, but the inventor of them and one of the principals behind Lumishore came to watch/advise and see it all done.

It's not rocket science to fit them (on my last boat I did it with Mr Lumishore) but it was nice to have them fitted during the build as Fairline are very neat with their wiring and therefore did all the driver//cable installation neatly. The 6 drivers are below and all the cables are inside the trunking (or are now - that photo was taken a while ago)

 

[DAKA]

Flybridge hatch and custom design stairs

Wow jfm
This is a mega thread, must be all time no 1

I am intrigued by your FB hatch, now mine had a habit of closing when be rocked at anchor, I eliminated the issue by attaching a custom made white bungee cord.

Now I am assuming you dont have a bit of bungee cord on your Flybridge and I know you have stabilizers fitted to eliminate the anchor roll however with the grab handle fitted , I assume you have found/made some sort of fasting that stops the hatch closing each time someone grabs the grab rail
please share as your photo stops just short and I would love to get rid of my bungee

 

[jfm]

I assume you have found/made some sort of fasting that stops the hatch closing each time someone grabs the grab rail
please share as your photo stops just short and I would love to get rid of my bungee

You see the bar on the underside of the hatch, that forms a banister for your left hand as you walk up the stairs? The top portion rotates to latch the hatch in the upright/open position. You can see the joint in the 25mm dia s/s tube (scarfed at 45deg) in that photo. In the photo it is latched open, so the banister is in "banister mode". If you rotate the top portion of the banister clockwise, it releases (on the other side) a tab from a corresponding tab/striker plate on the guard rails, to release the hatch so you can close it. Likewise, once you've opened the hatch you turn the top bit of the banister anticlockwise and the tab on the other side latches onto the tab/striker plate on the guard rails, to hold the hatch open. you can see the top of the tab/striker plate in the picture, welded to the guard rail

 

[iangrant]

That hatch is a very, very.....

very, very, clever design,

Is it voice activated, "Open Hatch" -- "Close Hatch" or is it broken beam activated as you walk up the steps?


Ian

 

[DAKA]

The top portion rotates to latch the hatch in the upright/open position. a tab from a corresponding tab/striker plate on the guard rails,

Thanks, thats excellent

I could easily change my hatch fixed handle for a 'swivel handle' .

 

[mjf]

Have to sat jfm the quality of this boat beggers belief - the hatch hand rail and catch arrangement is a great testament to fab design and wonderful execution.


Daka - get replacement gas struts , that will keep the F/B open at anchor

 

[DAKA]

Daka - get replacement gas struts , that will keep the F/B open at anchor

I replaced them last year which keeps the lid open most of the time but not when some **** comes close by @ 30 knots, we also leave it open on the move while swmbo lifts the fenders or one of us pops down for a 'comfort break' .

Its the wrong thread to discus PBO stlye modifications but jfm's design just sang out to me when I noticed my stainless steel bar office door handle.

http://www.doorhandlesuk.com/acatalog/info_922.html




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[nyx2k]

after reading the whole thread i concur with others that the spec have been very well thought out.
do you have a design or engineering background that qualifies you to make these decisions or just a user who has had a good few boats and knows what he wants.

 

[DougH]

after reading the whole thread i concur with others that the spec have been very well thought out.
do you have a design or engineering background that qualifies you to make these decisions or just a user who has had a good few boats and knows what he wants.

BOTH

But jfm will be too modest to say so.

 

[jfm]

You're a gentleman DougH

As a bit of a diversion, I got the tender today. Pics below. Ref the first pic, I might have gone and got a too-big motor again, dang . These 4 strokes are way too big really (I mean physically, not hp). It makes you think you should get an old 2 stroke and have it fully refurbed

It's an Avon se400dl with Yam 50, Wilks fake teak decks, Garmin 451s sounder/plotter in the dash. It's not quite finished: I have a Garmin VHF to fit to the dash (carphone-esque handset to the left of the little plotter) plus a set of Lumishore lights. The excellent flexicovers.co.uk have made a black sunbrella cover for it

Below is the HIN. Wierd. The HIN says it's a 2011 model and the dealer only got it from Avon a couple of weeks ago, yet it was moulded in January 2009 ("A9"). I don't care, but WTF? I hope Avon don't tell their manage-it-for-cash owners, Carlyle, that they make hulls 2 years before selling them! Perhaps it's only the French factory where this one came from that does this

 

[iangrant]

Just done that

You're a gentleman DougH

"It makes you think you should get an old 2 stroke and have it fully refurbed"

120 hours suzi 2 stroke 15 hp to go on the back of the walker bay to fit the davits, OK so it's not the 400HP you had but that would be possible if I could lift the weight.

You CAN buy them, and with a 6 month warranty



Ian

 

[MYAG]

...................I got the tender today. Pics below. Ref the first pic, I might have gone and got a too-big motor again, dang . These 4 strokes are way too big really (I mean physically, not hp). It makes you think you should get an old 2 stroke and have it fully refurbed

That came quite quickly,..........you are right, that engine does look massive perched on the back, but I quite like that! Nice spec though I am a little surprised you have gone with the fake teak, nothing fake on the mothership. Off to FLIBS tomorrow and will get to see the finished 430 next week before she gets loaded. Hope the engine looks just as chunky

 

[jfm]

surprised you have gone with the fake teak, nothing fake on the mothership. Off to FLIBS tomorrow and will get to see the finished 430 next week before she gets loaded. Hope the engine looks just as chunky

It was a bit of a fine call. Avon do a real teak deck kit for it too. I hate teak when it's silver/grey and like to keep it brown, and thought it would be a load of hassle for crew to use 2-part inside a tender and really scrub it. So I thought I'd try the fake stuff. It does look pretty good, though I do shudder at the thought of its fake-icity

Good luck with yours. As you know i think the Novu that you're getting is way nicer than the Avon. I just wimped out on price: the boat in my pics is <£13k including the teak and Garmin; the Novu would have been £23k with same engine, and I reckoned £10k was too much extra. The Avon is good enough (despite the boy racer steering wheel!)

Enjoy FLIBS.

 

[Alistairr]

The boats are coming along nicely jfm, I read this thread with interest every day so keep it coming, especially the pics.

This post has cost me money too, cause of it I've decided to come to LIBS in january, and have just booked flights this morning.
Whitelighter and myself will be wanting to see in every nook and cranny on the first Saturday, will you be around? Was hoping to finally meet you in person and thankyou for your generocity in 2006, I've never forgotten that.

Cheers

Al.

 

[jfm]

The boats are coming along nicely jfm, I read this thread with interest every day so keep it coming, especially the pics.

This post has cost me money too, cause of it I've decided to come to LIBS in january, and have just booked flights this morning.
Whitelighter and myself will be wanting to see in every nook and cranny on the first Saturday, will you be around? Was hoping to finally meet you in person and thankyou for your generocity in 2006, I've never forgotten that.

Cheers

Al.

Oops, sorry about the cost of flights! Yes I'll be there the first saturday. You're most welcome and i look forward to meeting you. I'll have an electric screwdriver ready for you to look at every nook and cranny . Funnily enough, i met Jez (and RogerRat) on board the Sq78 at the 2010 show.

 

[Richard Shead]

Jeez...

I know who is going to be the busiest man at the show......I think Fairline should take two, one for you and the forum and one for other punters...


Oh and a small subscription sales point on the back deck flogging MBY will be superb....

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

know...

Re.the rotation, I don't think it's so rare for maneuvering winches to spin either CW or CCW. Surely not in my boat frinstance, but I'm pretty sure to have seen it elsewhere, though I can't remember on which boat by heart. Ferretti maybe. Deleted User, am I dreaming of it?
Anyhow, sometimes the placement dictates the rotation.

Mapism, being a pauper I only have a mooring winch on the starboard side of my boat and I can confirm it definitely rotates only clockwise. We do what jfm does ie wind in the stern line on the winch and then transfer the line to the cleat. The momentum of pulling the boat astern allows a fraction of a second to do that. I also agree with jfm in that I dont think it makes any difference whether the load of the sternline is taken on the cleat or left on the winch as the winch is probably even more strongly secured than the cleat

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Below is the HIN. Wierd. The HIN says it's a 2011 model and the dealer only got it from Avon a couple of weeks ago, yet it was moulded in January 2009 ("A9"). I don't care, but WTF? I hope Avon don't tell their manage-it-for-cash owners, Carlyle, that they make hulls 2 years before selling them! Perhaps it's only the French factory where this one came from that does this

Apparently thats quite common with RIBS. The Revenger RIB I used to own in the UK had a HIN no which also showed the hull had been moulded 2 yrs before the HIN no date. I spoke to Revenger and they said it was quite normal for RIB manufacturers to buy a job lot of moulded hulls and hold them in stock until they were fitted out. By convention the HIN no date is the model year in which fitting out is completed, hence yours being 2011. I guess its cheaper to buy hulls in large quantities and hold them in stock than buy them in small quantities as and when required. Revenger also told me thats its rare for RIB manufacturers to mould their own hulls and most buy them in from specialist GRP moulding firms

 

[jfm]

Apparently thats quite common with RIBS. The Revenger RIB I used to own in the UK had a HIN no which also showed the hull had been moulded 2 yrs before the HIN no date. I spoke to Revenger and they said it was quite normal for RIB manufacturers to buy a job lot of moulded hulls and hold them in stock until they were fitted out. By convention the HIN no date is the model year in which fitting out is completed, hence yours being 2011. I guess its cheaper to buy hulls in large quantities and hold them in stock than buy them in small quantities as and when required. Revenger also told me thats its rare for RIB manufacturers to mould their own hulls and most buy them in from specialist GRP moulding firms

Ah, ok, understand. That said, my Sq78 is L011, ie Dec2010 build, 2011 m/year. Dec 2010 is when the build finishes not when the hull was moulded. All confusing, but of no consequence

 

[Pinnacle]

I know who is going to be the busiest man at the show......I think Fairline should take two, one for you and the forum and one for other punters...


Oh and a small subscription sales point on the back deck flogging MBY will be superb....

And if jfm sells viewing tickets at a couple of quid each, he should have got most of the cost of the boat ( oh alright, the rib ) back by the end of the show!