Boat in build pics (Squadron 78)

rb_stretch said:
There were no problems at all from normal punters on the boat.

However it was SIBS and for some barmy reason the organisers lifting company started to lift boats out of the show with a gale blowing (I presume they work to deadline to empty the show). Mine got pranged cause either the banksman wasn't paying attention or they lost control. I had a dark blue hull so ended up getting a repair and full hull respray to sort it.
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Blimey! Bet you were hopping mad. Glad it got fixed ok, and good to hear that you had no damage from normal show visitor traffic
 
jfm said:
Bet you were hopping mad.
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Amazing how time heals anger as yes I was hopping mad at the time. What especially wound me up was that I had to discover the damage myself on my first visit to the commissioning area and no-one bothered to forewarn me of what I was about the see.
 
jfm said:
The flow rate in med pumps is so slow it's a real hassle refueling a biggish boat.
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Yes I remember once at the fuel station in Dubrovnic ACI marina, there was a 100ft-ish SanLorenzo on the fuel dock, two fuel hoses/pumps used to fillup that boat,

the guy from the station say'd that I had to wait for a while,
When I answered: don't worry, we're on holliday we have plenty of time,
he say'd: OK then, you can stay here for 3 to 4 hours, as the SL just started fueling 15000 liters of diesel :o

luckyly for us there is another fuel station in "Gruz" in Dubrovnic :)
 
BartW said:
Yes I remember once at the fuel station in Dubrovnic ACI marina, there was a 100ft-ish SanLorenzo on the fuel dock, two fuel hoses/pumps used to fillup that boat,

the guy from the station say'd that I had to wait for a while,
When I answered: don't worry, we're on holliday we have plenty of time,
he say'd: OK then, you can stay here for 3 to 4 hours, as the SL just started fueling 15000 liters of diesel :o

luckyly for us there is another fuel station in "Gruz" in Dubrovnic :)
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Yup, I know the ACI marina in Dubrovnic well. I would say it has normal speed pumps, not especially slow. But I'm not surprised the SL needed 3 hours. I hope he wasn''t doing it on Saturday, which is charter boat changeover day! I need only 50% of the SL's fuel load, but 1.5-2hours is still pretty embarrassing!
 
jfm said:
but 1.5-2hours is still pretty embarrassing!
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around 20 minutes (for 350 liters) in a small bussy fuel station in the center of La Ciotat,
and blocking the exit with my car + trailer was ambarrassing aswell, :)
in october this year before launching in the water
 
Just a thought, for later on perhaps (after the London Boat Show maybe?) -

JFM, I (and I am sure many other readers) would love to see (at some stage - perhaps in a new thread?) a set of comparison photos between your fine vessel and the 'standard' Fairline 78.

I am thinking if (for reference) you used the 'standard' photos for the accommodation that are shown on the website, and took similar photos of your new Match (perhaps in final 'live-aboard' mode, rather than boat show mode), it would be quite fascinating to see the different designs and styles 'side by side' so to speak - and especially a comparison of the two different flying bridge console layouts.

Far from there being any suggestion that yours is 'better' than the standard (although I am sure that many folk on here do think so, myself included), this could be a good advertisement for Fairline to show the degree of customisation that is possible.
It could even be the basis for a limited edition 'coffee table' book of Fairline 78 photos......?!

And.... could you please also post some final finished / lived in photos sometime please of the areas that are never shown in the Manufacturer's catalogues, like the bilges (I am sure that they are immaculate, with proper labels everywhere for systems), engine room (perhaps a wee YouTube video panning around in here?) and the crew accomodation?
 
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jfm said:
Yup, I know the ACI marina in Dubrovnic well. I would say it has normal speed pumps, not especially slow. But I'm not surprised the SL needed 3 hours. I hope he wasn''t doing it on Saturday, which is charter boat changeover day! I need only 50% of the SL's fuel load, but 1.5-2hours is still pretty embarrassing!
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Thinking about it, I would have expected it to be the exception rather that the rule that it's not possible to get a fuel truck close enough to the sort of dock that will take a 24m boat in the med to mean that you have to trundle over to a fuel dock.

Maybe worth asking fioul83 for recommendations of fuel companies who could deliver in other departements etc and booking ahead if you need to exceed the range you have with your extra tankage.
 
Steady on !

jfm said:
Gludy's Trader 575 was indeed a terribly built boat (listed for sale again in current MBY I see) but it's importnat not to tar all with too wide a brush. I reckon if you order a boat from the UK big 4, or the big Italian yards, or many small privately owned Italian yards, you'll get a top quality product even if you never show up to inspect it. My reason for visiting the factory every 3 weeks or so was to develop the design mods with the Fairline team (you can email drawings back and forth all day but at certain stages you have to see/touch it) not to check they were building it well!
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That rule could apply anywhere, I have seen hideous workmanship from British, Italian, US and yes Far East builders. I have also seen top notch from all of the foregoing too. The trick (if that is the right word) is to pick a good builder that has the resources, management and skills to build a great yacht and that doesn't mean a very swish set of offices and lots of trick production equipment. It all comes down to the skills of the work force and the right management and project team to pull the design, fabrication, engineering together.
 
Nautical said:
...to build a great yacht and that doesn't mean a very swish set of offices and lots of trick production equipment...
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Well I agree with the comment about the skilled workforce, but if you lose the word "trick", which implies that it's superficial, then surely a builder that invests in top notch production equipment is going to build a better boat, all other things being equal?
 
Nick_H said:
surely a builder that invests in top notch production equipment is going to build a better boat, all other things being equal?
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Well, it depends on what AOTBE really means.
If there would be on the planet such thing as two builders producing exactly the same boats, in the same yearly numbers, with equally skilled workforce and using the same materials, then yes, I'd tend to go for the one with top notch equipment.
But in real life, Bayliner builds boats with top notch plants, whilst Riva, ermm... Have you ever been in Sarnico?
 
maybe gludys problems started when he ordered a boat from a moraly bankrupt person who sees his business as his personal feifdom.
the fairline is in a total dirrerent league.

id like to read a thread about it being delivered by sea to its new home.
 
Production processes are the key, not necessarily the equipment. Boatbuilders have started using ex car plant manufacturing people with some success. For example Steve Coltate at Sealine (now moved up the tree in Brunswick), Andy Peck at SS. Fairline have used some contract poject managers, but these have been engineers, not manufacturing people.

I may be biased, but generaly people from the auto industry are many years ahead in terms of engineering and production processes than most other industry's. This is a case of having to be, due to the extreme competitiveness of the auto sector.
 
jfm said:
Yup, I know the ACI marina in Dubrovnic well. I would say it has normal speed pumps, not especially slow. But I'm not surprised the SL needed 3 hours. I hope he wasn''t doing it on Saturday, which is charter boat changeover day! I need only 50% of the SL's fuel load, but 1.5-2hours is still pretty embarrassing!
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Actually Friday is worst for charterers filling their boats before returning to base. I've already learnt to avoid filling on that day. I think Croatia is well served in terms of fuel stations as every reasonably sized island has one and the bigger fuel stations like Split have multiple pumps. I dont think pump flow rates are any slower than W Med either
 
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