Blue Card

[donde]

My transit log was checked in Kas 2009 and as it was not up to date got fined 160 liras. So I would not feel so easy with the regulations. Left for Greece to see what happens with the blue card.

 

[Appleyard]

My transit log was checked in Kas 2009 and as it was not up to date got fined 160 liras. So I would not feel so easy with the regulations. Left for Greece to see what happens with the blue card.

What do you mean by not up to date?

 

[donde]

The transit log was not up to date because the crew list was not updated, one member of the crew was not on the list.

 

[Appleyard]

That's interesting but

With the greatest of respect,it was your own fault. If you read the notes on the back (?) of the Transit log ,there is a requirement to keep it updated re crew change . It was hard luck getting caught,but you were careless.

I'm not having a go at you ,just stating the obvious.!!

You were lucky the fine was only 160 ytl.

 

[satsuma]

Its obvious your not in Mugla, you DO wear a crash helmet on a scooter in Fethiye, yes and the Turks do too! (driver yes passenger optional) Red lights, you will see cars stopped at red lights unless they want a fine, they have a thing about the rules here.

All probably prompted by the whinging foreigners that complain about rules not being followed
Fortunately I live on the south coast of Turkey and by and large, common sense prevails over the "rules is rules" attitude!

 

[donde]

With the greatest of respect,it was your own fault. If you read the notes on the back (?) of the Transit log ,there is a requirement to keep it updated re crew change . It was hard luck getting caught,but you were careless.

I'm not having a go at you ,just stating the obvious.!!

You were lucky the fine was only 160 ytl.

I agree, it was my own fault. Just wanted to answer Satsuma.

 

[Squeaky]

Good morning:

The comment by Donde reminds me of a claim I have heard bandied about recently to the effect that everyone on a yacht might not need to be included if they were "guests" such as one might have on board when family and friends join for a trip out to a bay for an afternoon.

Wonder if anyone else has heard anything on this interpretation or knows if this would be accepted by the coast guard.

Cheers

Squeaky

 

[Capt-jacko]

I would be surprised if the Turkish day trip boats are putting every guest on there transit log,i think they would never get off the key

 

[Appleyard]

I would be even more surprised if they all have transit logs!

 

[satsuma]

I would be even more surprised if they all have transit logs!

I'd be amazed if a single one has a transit log!! . . . . . . . . they are for foreign flagged vessels in Turkish waters only!

The other alternative for Transit log crew lists, if people are worried about it, is to put every conceivable, possible or likely crew member to visit their boat, on at the start! But again, some enforcement agents accept this, and some don't! I still have never heard of the Coast Guard checking for this!

 

[Appleyard]

DOH!!!!

 

[Dig]

Could someone tell use what is going on with this Blue Card system in Marmaris please.we are getting VHF broadcasts from Yacht Marina and emails saying a new law is enforce and that all boats must have the Blue Card ,its free now but we will have to pay for it soon .

I only have a small black water tank if i put all the water in to this tank i will need to pump out every day,they say all waist must go from sinks,showers,toilets and bilge,my wife is very nerve's and upset over this and we do not wont to have our boat taken in loo of a big fine.

Cheers

We were borded this year by Coast gards 3 of them checked transit log,first aid box fire fighting stuff and life raft, and not just use all boats in the bay,
so it dose happen but we are getting the hell out now this Blue Card thing has started been put in place,we dont have the gray water tank and we not going to the expence of fitting one,so its by by Turkey,

 

[Appleyard]

We were borded this year by Coast gards 3 of them checked transit log,first aid box fire fighting stuff and life raft, and not just use all boats in the bay,
so it dose happen but we are getting the hell out now this Blue Card thing has started been put in place,we dont have the gray water tank and we not going to the expence of fitting one,so its by by Turkey,

Where exactly did this happen?

 

[Dig]

We were very nervers when this happened and found it unsetling ,it happend 2 miles from Marty marina in one of the bays on your way to Dacha.it was the big CG boat and they came along side in there dingy,even a small boat in the bay was checked boat was about 10 mts about.

 

[Capt-jacko]

Yes thats the thing,if that happens now in a bay and you don't have the Blue Card to show how you are disposing of your gray and black water you are going to be fine.

 

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We were very nervers when this happened and found it unsetling ,it happend 2 miles from Marty marina in one of the bays on your way to Dacha.it was the big CG boat and they came along side in there dingy,even a small boat in the bay was checked boat was about 10 mts about.

Are you a Turkish flagged boat ? You must have been very unlucky. We spent 8 weeks in that area this summer and only ever got friendly waves from the coastguard vessels, although we did see them come alongside Turkish passenger boats occasionally.

I thought that they only had powers to see your papers, and not to board the yacht. Also as it is not compulsory to own a life-raft etc, I don't understand why they would check it.

We keep our Transit log up to date, and never pump out black water except far out to sea. But we also can't see how we can comply with the grey water regulations if they are enforced. We would far rather keep the regulations than ignore them and assume they won't be enforced, but this one is beyond us

 

[rivonia]

Having read all the posts we have now decided NOT to visit Turkey! Such a pity as we are in the TRNC and were going to cross over to explore the turkish coast. Now we shall head for the Greek Islands again.

 

[Dig]

Are you a Turkish flagged boat ? You must have been very unlucky. We spent 8 weeks in that area this summer and only ever got friendly waves from the coastguard vessels, although we did see them come alongside Turkish passenger boats occasionally.

I thought that they only had powers to see your papers, and not to board the yacht. Also as it is not compulsory to own a life-raft etc, I don't understand why they would check it.

We keep our Transit log up to date, and never pump out black water except far out to sea. But we also can't see how we can comply with the grey water regulations if they are enforced. We would far rather keep the regulations than ignore them and assume they won't be enforced, but this one is beyond us

No, we are British flag , the other boats which were boarded was 1 French flag.2 Turkish flag and 2 British flag boats.

 

[Squeaky]

Good afternoon:

I get the impression that most of those worrying about the Blue Card system and it's implementation are British - might be wrong, of course however this had led me to wonder if there is something in the English DNA which prompts them to worry about such subjects as this while citizens from other countries just get on with life.

There has been a report from "Dig" that he was boarded and checked which resulted in even more posts complaining/worrying about the Blue Card system even though there is no mention in his post of the Coast Guard asking about the Blue Card. Nor is there any mention of legal procedures for not having a Blue Card.

Is it possible that there is something in the English DNA which makes them immediately enact any rules proclaimed by the EU while other countries have to be threatened and taken to court of exact some of these rules. English citizens even seem to worry themselves sick excessively worrying about rules which are not being enforced and seem highly unlikely to be enforced primarily because the laws are totally impractical.

I look forward to the day when someone posts actual details of real incidents concerning enforcement of the Blue Card system and by this I don't mean reports about marinas such Marmaris Yat Marina enhancing their bottom line by pestering clients to pay for a card which other marinas give away free.

Threats to avoid sailing in Turkey because of the Blue Card seems to me to be "biting off your nose to spite your face"

Cheers

Squeaky

 

[jimbaerselman]

Good afternoon:

I get the impression that most of those worrying about the Blue Card system and it's implementation are British - might be wrong, of course however this had led me to wonder if there is something in the English DNA which prompts them to worry about such subjects as this while citizens from other countries just get on with life.

Whingeing poms, eh?