Beneteau First 24

[yusuf_1977]

Hello to All,

My new boat is 1985 First 24 which is well maintained and in very good condition.

Last week i have checked the boat and removed the bed cushions to wash at home and have seen some salty water on both sides of the front bed wooden flooring as you can see the picture the yellow cloth on the starboard is wet. Nowadays there are heavy rains .And the water seems like coming behind the carpet and rubber on the side walls. Do you have any idea about the source as its not coming from bilge its both sides. My idea is because of the heavy rains the water passes from deck behind the carpet and there is a rubber layer behind the carpet on the sidewalls. :ambivalence:

 

[dunedin]

Welcome to the forum. As a new member there seems to be a slight delay before you can post pictures. Hopefully this will be enabled soon.
Not a boat I am familiar with your specific boat type but bumping back up the list so hopefully a knowledgable person will be along soon

 

[SteveA]

I had a similar problem on a First 21.7 and traced it to the anchor locker drain fitting leaking.

 

[FirstAway]

Hi and welcome. I used to have a first 24 with a similar problem, I thought that it was coming from the anchor locker but on further investigation discovered it was leaking through the pulpit fixing which just needed reselling and tightening. Good luck.

 

[yusuf_1977]

Hello to all, i have noticed its from both anchor locker and pulpit fixing. Didnot touch it as its good to know where its coming from .Sometimes i have some water also in the aft room just under the cabinet where the gas tank is. The boat is well maintained thats why i dont care that much. Just routine controls.

I need the electric wiring diagramm and i am looking for some advices to replace my main anchor+chain . Usually i am anchoring in sandy shores 5-9 meters depth but strong winds we have without waves whichs is typical Aegean sea in Cesme Turkey . My combination will be a danforth 10kg and 6mm chain 10meter and after the rope. The bay is mostly very crowded which means not enough room for setting long line.

 

[Seajet]

Can you - tentatvely - taste the water to check if it's fresh or salt ?

Also talcolm powder can be good for tracing leaks.

 

[vyv_cox]

i am looking for some advices to replace my main anchor+chain . Usually i am anchoring in sandy shores 5-9 meters depth but strong winds we have without waves whichs is typical Aegean sea in Cesme Turkey . My combination will be a danforth 10kg and 6mm chain 10meter and after the rope. The bay is mostly very crowded which means not enough room for setting long line.

I believe that the Ultra anchor is far cheaper in Turkey than we pay in Western Europe. That would be a very good choice. I suggest you need enough chain for a 4:1 scope in the depth of water you normally anchor in. Keep the rope attached, as you will need to anchor in quite deep water when cruising in Turkey.

Anchoring on mainly rope in crowded anchorages can be difficult as the boat will move around a lot more than those anchored on all chain.

 

[langstonelayabout]

and i am looking for some advices to replace my main anchor+chain . Usually i am anchoring in sandy shores 5-9 meters depth but strong winds we have without waves whichs is typical Aegean sea in Cesme Turkey . My combination will be a danforth 10kg and 6mm chain 10meter and after the rope. The bay is mostly very crowded which means not enough room for setting long line.

Welcome to the internet's best place for anchor advice. My advice? There is a mathematical relation ship between the cost of the new anchor and how it performs. However, I think in the Aegean your anchor won't have to re-set every 6 hours so your Danforth is quite usable.

If I was buying a new anchor I'd buy a Rocna or Knox. Both are excellent performers but rather expensive. My current 27' boat has a 10kg Bruce with 30m of 8mm chain and then 12mm rope and a 6kg Delta kedge which has 5m of 8mm chain then 12mm rope.

I've always found the Bruce to be a good performer in the Med (Ionian & Saronic) and also here in the UK (Solent). The next one I buy will be the Knox.

 

[vyv_cox]

. However, I think in the Aegean your anchor won't have to re-set every 6 hours so your Danforth is quite usable.

That may be true in the meltemi but is definitely not in other winds. A couple of weeks ago we were anchored at Naousa in Paros, where the wind went through 360 degrees on many occasions over a few days, sometimes at force 4-5. Even in the meltemi there are variations at different times of day, especially downwind of hills. At Pandeli two nights ago boats were facing all directions at different times. I would not personally have liked to be on a Danforth in either place.

 

[langstonelayabout]

That may be true in the meltemi but is definitely not in other winds. A couple of weeks ago we were anchored at Naousa in Paros, where the wind went through 360 degrees on many occasions over a few days, sometimes at force 4-5. Even in the meltemi there are variations at different times of day, especially downwind of hills. At Pandeli two nights ago boats were facing all directions at different times. I would not personally have liked to be on a Danforth in either place.

Fair enough. This should be justification enough for a new generation anchor. A Knox perhaps?

I've only ever used Danforth/Brittany anchors in situations where they won't need to reset (longlining, bow to, stern to or in a dinghy) and they seemed fine for those applications.

My Catalina 270 came with a Danforth as standard (the anchor locker was designed for it) and the first thing I did was change it...

 

[vyv_cox]

Fair enough. This should be justification enough for a new generation anchor. A Knox perhaps?

I've only ever used Danforth/Brittany anchors in situations where they won't need to reset (longlining, bow to, stern to or in a dinghy) and they seemed fine for those applications.

My Catalina 270 came with a Danforth as standard (the anchor locker was designed for it) and the first thing I did was change it...

I agree, I use a Fortress as a kedge and am more than happy with it. As the OP is in Turkey, where Ultras are made and I understand are available at knock down prices there, that's what I would look for.

 

[Neeves]

I don't know the yacht but at that age I'd check the pulpit and stanchion bases, re-sealing will not be difficult. Just clean up properly prior, buy some Sika - and don't use turps to clean up, follow the instruction and use soapy water.

Again, I don't know prices, but a Kobra ought to be cheap - but given that Ultra are said to be cheap I'd go for that option. I suspect Bugel copies are also cheap (I have seen a lot in the eastern Med) but I'd steer clear. Another vote for Fortress.

 

[yusuf_1977]

Hello again , the first summer with the boat in Aegean waters around Cesme is awesome i have to say . My berth is in Dalyan Cesme which is a natural port . I did go for a 10kg Danforth and 6 mm 12 meters long galvanised chain and the rest is 60 meters rope. I do mainly anchor in two different bay which is many crowded with motorboats and sailboats . The depths i set my anchor is 3-7 meters and the bottom is all sand . After setting anchor i go and check the Danforth with my snorkel and everytime i see it digs very well the sand. Everything seems ok but i have noticed my boat change directions more quickly than the others . Is it because of rope + chain combination or is it because other boats are much mainly much more heavier than mines any idea ?

 

[Tranona]

Combination of light weight and using rope. You will find the Danforth is not very good at coping with dramatic changes in direction - for example if the wind changes 180 degrees and is strong you may find it breaks out and does not reset easily. Good choice in sand and mud IF the pull is in one direction, but is not a good all round anchor for general use in varying conditions.

 

[nathanglasgow]

My fellow club member Geoff use a Knox and swears by them. He does a lot of anchoring in far flung places,recently St Kilda and Rockhall. He may be a bit biased of course as does have a connection to the company but seems to have faith in the product.