Bargin Sealine ?

[ian38_39]

the smaller the boat the more it will slam and only Sealine still make sub 30' boats, with exception to the crane lift both of my sealines have been crack free and dry on survey a 1991 255 and a 1993 310. Maybe they have already been repaired but there was no sign of it and have taken them both back to gell before I have put them back in the water. The 310 has been out in some nasty seas and the North Sea chop isn't kind so I guess the next survey will tell.

 

[enterprise]

Strange that, I just did as instructed by petem and put a search in for stress cracking to confirm that Princess and Fairline never have a problem, First post that came up after this thread was a Fairline with cracking to the stiffeners.

Then again it must be "a complete load of old codswhollop!" as Fairline and Princess don't have those sort of problems

Ian can you please tell me where you found the report of cracking to the stiffeners, I tried the search as you suggested but didn't find the post you are referring too, cheers.


I have found one for fairline about windscreen, garage and non structural bulkhead ( no hull cracks however) and your question as shown below,


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Can anyone tell me the difference beween a 350 and a 360,

I have looked at a 350 and the engines are fine but a recent structural survey showed moderate stress damage to the hull, the suggested rectification has been carried out but would anyone touch it?

there is also some very localised ossmosis which the survey was not concerned with but is this usual for a sealine that has spent its life on salt or this indicative of further problems?

Ian

 

[ian38_39]

Pete here is the post,

Yes but not structural bulkheads. On my boat there was cracking on the join between the hull and the bulkhead separating the saloon from the master cabin shower and also at the join between the moulding supporting the saloon seating and the hull. As I mentioned, the windscreen frame on my boat also exhibited cracking. None of this is acceptable but the T48 quickly got a reputation for being a good sea boat so maybe the previous owner of my boat drove it hard but I doubt it because he was a nice old German man with a nervous wife! My boat was built in 1997 and therefore was one of the early T48's and also I understand that demand was much higher than expected at the time so maybe Fairline couldn't build them fast enough and cut some corners.
I try to speak as I find whether it's a British or foreign boat. I'm happy to say that I had a bad or good experience with any boat that I've owned wherever it came from



and the reason for the post on the 350 was much the same as the 330 here, I thought it unusual, I also found out the the owner didn't like to slow down and was proud of the fact that it went through any conditions at 23 knots.
And no I didn't buy it.

 

[enterprise]

Thanks Ian, yes that's the only one I found, no mention of princess and sunseeker though, or stiffeners for that mater.

I think you will find the difference here is that the reported cracks are not structural but cosmetic and confined to internal mouldings, later in the post it's confirmed that there were no problems with structural bulkheads and hull etc, just dividing walls and the inner moulded stuff, however many posts relating to sealine specifically report external hull defects.

Still cannot see the link between small sealines and inexperienced owners though, we know of many retired couples who cherish their s23/25's and wouldn't even think of blasting around in anything greater than force 2, anything above calm is no fun for some of them, I would assume long before the s23/25 the s24 would have been used just the same by these experienced owners, yet we still have many cherished examples with defects, the 260 we had surveyed was a one owner, retired couple, only 320 hrs on twin 4.3l petrol engines but the hull damage was extensive, I almost felt embarrassed to break the news.
I think the problem might not be how they are driven, careless lifting maybe, I could see that, construction technique quite possibly but one things for sure, if you do have a good one then take care, don't push it too hard, look after it.

 

[AdeOlly]

the smaller the boat the more it will slam and only Sealine still make sub 30' boats.

Yes, but that's not an excuse for stress cracking. Either the design is inadequate with insufficient/too small stringers/bulkheads or they've been badly built. Designing stringers and bulkheads so that a sub 30' hull doesn't flex and crack is not that tall an order.

Also, the boat referred to by the OP is a 33' f/b, hardly a wave bouncing sports boat. There have also been hull issues reported on this forum with other 30'+ Sealines, but not the S28 which seems rock solid, so they clearly can do it properly.

As I said before I'm not remotely anti-Sealine; when the economy picks up and I have some spare cashflow I hope to pick up an SC35.

 

[Who]

Can anyone tell me the difference beween a 350 and a 360,

350 has a shorter flybridge than the 360. Rear canopy will not fold away into underside of flybridge on 350, also missing some of flybridge sunbed.

 

[enterprise]

Sorry "Who" , I copied and pasted an Original question from some time ago posted by Ian, not me asking (but I can see the confusion), I copied and pasted it because of the rest of the question, but thanks for the taking time to reply.

 

[CX54WEK]

Thankfully our S23 has no signs of stress cracking upon being lifted and chocked ashore. Has but our minds at ease a little.

 

[AdeOlly]

Thankfully our S23 has no signs of stress cracking upon being lifted and chocked ashore. Has but our minds at ease a little.

I know of somebody who bought an early S23 which turned out to have some stress cracks. As far as I remember, and it was praps three years ago, he contacted Sealine and they took ownership of the issue even though the boat was way out of warranty. They collected the boat, fixed it, and returned it clean and tidy with fresh a/f. I'm fairly sure he said the problem was confined to the early year or two of production only, and that they'd fixed most of the affected boats.

 

[CX54WEK]

I know of somebody who bought an early S23 which turned out to have some stress cracks. As far as I remember, and it was praps three years ago, he contacted Sealine and they took ownership of the issue even though the boat was way out of warranty. They collected the boat, fixed it, and returned it clean and tidy with fresh a/f. I'm fairly sure he said the problem was confined to the early year or two of production only, and that they'd fixed most of the affected boats.

Thats good to know though, thanks.

(ours is a late 2003 model so relatively early in the production)