Average speed of an Oceanis 50

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I am trying to calculate the ETA of well crewed Oceanis 50.
Can anybody advise me of the average speed or miles per day this time of year, for a trip of Gibraltar to Canaries, and Canaries to Caribbean
Thanks in anticipation
Plank
 
A budget figure for that length 8 knots or so? If you're talking about consistent trade winds from the right direction with sails and rig to suit then a fair bit more perhaps 10 knots? So approx 170 -240 miles per day.
 
If they are sailing rather than using engines in the calms, it is entirely dependant on the wind direction & strength.

You could estimate 100 miles a day, they should do almost double that in good conditions, but might be down to half that in calms or serious head winds. And the distance isn't necessarily going to all be in the required direction!

Just be aware that you are asking how long a piece of string is. I would expect between 20 & 30 days just for the second leg, but it could be far more or even quite a bit less. Do they not have an AIS transmitter aboard?
 
RichardS said:
You've lost me there, Searush? :confused:

I don't have an AIS but I'm always keen to learn.

Richard
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A small black box that broadcasts the boat's details (name, destination, speed & course) & which is published on a site like this one.

Something that is out of the reach of penny-pinching pensioners like me, but for someone with a fully crewed Oceanis 50, it is probably cheaper than their toilet roll bill for an Atlantic crossing.
 
Searush said:
A small black box that broadcasts the boat's details (name, destination, speed & course) & which is published on a site like this one.
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It only broadcasts on VHF though, and will only make it onto a website if someone with a receiver, internet connection, and the inclination to tie the two together, happens to be within range.

So not on the majority of an Atlantic passage.

Pete
 
Just heard there within mobile range of Minorca at 18.00 after leaving Genoa Thursday morning, that gives me something to go on about 6.5 knots so far! (thats not very good)
Plank
 
PlankWalker said:
Just heard there within mobile range of Minorca at 18.00 after leaving Genoa Thursday morning, that gives me something to go on about 6.5 knots so far! (thats not very good)
Plank
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It's about what I'd expect to be honest. The Oceanis is hardly a rocketship and 50 feet, while a good size isn't big enough to guarantee average cruising speeds of much more than 7 knots.
 
It all depends of course. But for a boat like that, if you are sailing the whole time, you would normally reckon on about 120 miles per day on average. Of course with some much better, and some much worse depending on conditions.

If you use the motor every time your speed drops below 6 knots, then of course you will average more.

I think most tall ships reckon on about 120 miles per day on trade wind routes.
 
prv said:
It only broadcasts on VHF though, and will only make it onto a website if someone with a receiver, internet connection, and the inclination to tie the two together, happens to be within range.

So not on the majority of an Atlantic passage.

Pete
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Fairy Nuff, but seems to work at around 50 miles from land on the web site I linked to. As you say, not the majority of an ocean cossing, but half a day's warning of arrival, at least.
 
Oceanis 50

Have owned one for the last 3 years and we passage plan using 7.5kts. Inevitably we manage a little more if the wind is good, but I prefer to take a conservative view and then re-plan during the passage. Best so far was Plymouth to L'Aberwrach (113 Miles) at average of 9.6kts. For daily passage run, I would plan on 175-185m. Obviously a good passage with maybe some coloured sails, if appropriate, would see a 200m+ day. One Ocreanis 50 did the ARC in 2007 and regularly had 200+ days across the pond.

Maybe not a rocket ship as suggested by another poster (I wonder whether he has specific knowledge of the type?) but it sure feels fast to me. You will find this a fast and responsive cruising yacht capable of steering on rails for hours at a time. Very rarely does she slam (the other criticism often bandied about regarding Bene's) and she sails well in calm airs as well. At 17 tons and 50' overrall (I think the waterline length is around 46'), she is lighter than others of similar length and so a little faster.

Enjoy the trip - I am sure you will
 
17 tons

Morgana, she is actually at 16.25 tons but then you load accumulated junk (inc a generator in my case),food, crew etc etc and you can start to round it off at 17 tons. I think you are comparing apples with oranges here - the Oceanis 50 is a cruising yacht and should be compared with comparable blue water cruisers (often over 20 tons). I suspect the First 50 is a lot lighter but then that is the racing version and not really set up for long term cruising.
 
stiknstring said:
Morgana, she is actually at 16.25 tons but then you load accumulated junk (inc a generator in my case),food, crew etc etc and you can start to round it off at 17 tons. I think you are comparing apples with oranges here - the Oceanis 50 is a cruising yacht and should be compared with comparable blue water cruisers (often over 20 tons). I suspect the First 50 is a lot lighter but then that is the racing version and not really set up for long term cruising.
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Design displacement for the Oceanis 50 is given as 12.2 tons http://www.beneteau.com/UserFile/File/Voile/gammes/Oceanis/oceanis_50/New/I_OCEANIS_50_NEW_EN.pdf. By contrast the First 50 is slightly heavier weighing in at 13.1 tons
 
Stated weights

The Beneteau weghts of 12.2 tons are for the "lightship". This weight does not include any options, just the basic spec weight. This excludes anchor, chain, "usual" options (there is a long list of usual options including navionics, radar etc) and excluding fuel and water quantities. When we put all this together, it comes to the standard 16.25 tons (which they also quote as a standard weight for the boat), then you add crew wieghts, generator aircon etc and you push close to the 17 tons mark.
 
PlankWalker said:
I am trying to calculate the ETA of well crewed Oceanis 50.
Can anybody advise me of the average speed or miles per day this time of year, for a trip of Gibraltar to Canaries, and Canaries to Caribbean
Thanks in anticipation
Plank
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I would plan on an average passage speed of 7 knots. If you are going to be able to publish the result, anyone wanna 'sportsmans bet'??

:)
 
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