Poignard
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They ought to be good. People who don't take risks aren't much use commanding warships, or anything else.
Atalanta of Chester/Hanne Knutsen trial
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They ought to be good. People who don't take risks aren't much use commanding warships, or anything else.
Angele
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I understand he is now "ex-navy" (or retired, or whatever the official term is), although still a reservist. "Jumped ship" metaphorically, unlike his crewmember who did it for real.
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JumbleDuck
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I believe he's a former Royal Navy officer. Probably cos he sank a battleship in his previous career
What happened - did Gibraltar suddenly turn into his path whilst exceeding the speed limit?
JumbleDuck
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I think you may have missed out the phrase "and get away with it" in there.
l'escargot
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It's a single district judge, Anthony Calloway, in the magistrates court.
Interestingly towards the bottom of this page: http://www.yachtingmonthly.com/magazine/50123/summer-2012 there is a reference to:
Sailing a Bavaria 36 from Port Solent
District judge Anthony Callaway shows Yachting Monthly round his yacht and home waters
and more here: http://www.yachtingmonthly.com/news/532924/yachting-monthly-helps-rescue-mob
I wonder if he is a member of the forum
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A1Sailor
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I believe he's a former Royal Navy officer. Probably cos he sank a battleship in his previous career
Did he? Or does your "Rolls Eyes Smiley" mean that you don't know?
fireball
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Interestingly towards the bottom of this page: http://www.yachtingmonthly.com/magazine/50123/summer-2012 there is a reference to:
Sailing a Bavaria 36 from Port Solent
District judge Anthony Callaway shows Yachting Monthly round his yacht and home waters
oo ... so somebody who should be in the know then ...
flaming
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It's a single district judge, Anthony Calloway, in the magistrates court.
Interestingly towards the bottom of this page: http://www.yachtingmonthly.com/magazine/50123/summer-2012 there is a reference to:
Sailing a Bavaria 36 from Port Solent
District judge Anthony Callaway shows Yachting Monthly round his yacht and home waters
Wow, good find! One would hope that neither side will be able to bamboozle him with nautical nonsense then!
I wonder if he was allocated this case especially?
colingr
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Hence the probably and the smiley, just a bit of whimsey
Angele
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... perhaps he is one of us.
... I doubt the HM Court Service is sufficiently organised to act in such a sensible manner.
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l'escargot
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Don't know, he seems to do varied work - he was in the family courts in Portsmouth last week and he has sentenced the naked rambler too...
cryan
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I would like to say this behaviour is surprising from an ex RN officer but, having spent five years working next to them, sadly its not.
I have no idea why he thinks he can get away with this and his naval training should have alerted him to the fact that he is about to get hammered in court. Sailing out of Southampton on big ships I witnessed quite a few near misses and the pilots are well used to this malarky. Having your barrister question the senior pilots knowledge of the area is surely a loosing strategy? I presume the defendant is one of the silver spoon short commission boys who's only interest in the navy is being able to say he upheld family tradition and the ability to add it to his CV before his chosen job in the City.
I have no idea why he thinks he can get away with this and his naval training should have alerted him to the fact that he is about to get hammered in court. Sailing out of Southampton on big ships I witnessed quite a few near misses and the pilots are well used to this malarky. Having your barrister question the senior pilots knowledge of the area is surely a loosing strategy? I presume the defendant is one of the silver spoon short commission boys who's only interest in the navy is being able to say he upheld family tradition and the ability to add it to his CV before his chosen job in the City.
JohnGC
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Might help with visualization.
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AntarcticPilot
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... perhaps he is one of us.
... I doubt the HM Court Service is sufficiently organised to act in such a sensible manner.
If he is, he'd disqualify himself if he read this thread, or the others on the same topic! He is only allowed to take into consideration the facts as presented in court, and if it was shown that he'd read opinions beyond those presented in court, he'd be off the case PDQ.
The real problem is likely to be that the defense and prosecuting counsels may not be au fait with seamanship issues.
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JumbleDuck
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I'd expect whoever is bringing the prosecution to make sure that they chose a suitably experienced barrister. Same with the accused.
Simondjuk
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Basically therefore, don't put yourself in a position where you will end up within the ship's MPZ when she enters the AoC. Seems pretty clear to me as it is.
jwilson
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It's really a bit strange that whether a GPS on the yacht was working or not came up in court - clear visibility in a very congested Solent.
AntarcticPilot
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No doubt experienced in the relevant law - but seamanship?
Grumpybear
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Barristers are more likely than most people to be able to afford to run a luxury yacht. I wonder if the proportion that actually do so is more or less than that in the population as a whole?
A1Sailor
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Surely "both sides" can call on expert witnesses, though?
