Arvor, pro's and cons

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Arvor, pro\'s and cons

I want to buy a used Arvor and have started to look on the web sites at the models for sale. I don't need a large boat as there will usually only be two of us on board, so I thought the Arvor 18 or 20 may be ok for us. Some 18's have the 50hp diesel and some have the 85hp, the 50hp seems too small to me, anyone got any advice on that point and other points to look out for e.g. make of diesel Nanni or VW. I prefer the diesel because of the better fuel economy and want a bathing platform on the stern with easy access to the cockpit which is not as good with an outboard, hence reason looking at Arvor rather than other fast fisher types which usually have outboards such as Merry Fisher or Quicksilver. I only want to spend up to £15,000 as have a limited budget
 
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Never had an arvor, but looked at them at SIBS 07 - seem to have a fairly good reputation as a fishing boat, however I found that my head touched the overhang at the rear of the cabin... and I just knew that clouting my head would get seriously boring (I'm just 6ft)

I would also go for the nanni rather than the VW (just a personal opinion)

Before committing to an arvor I would also strong recommend looking at the MF635 with an inboard nanni - should be within budget.

get a sea trial on both
 
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Never had an arvor, but looked at them at SIBS 07 - seem to have a fairly good reputation as a fishing boat, however I found that my head touched the overhang at the rear of the cabin... and I just knew that clouting my head would get seriously boring (I'm just 6ft)

I would also go for the nanni rather than the VW (just a personal opinion)

Before committing to an arvor I would also strong recommend looking at the MF635 with an inboard nanni - should be within budget.

get a sea trial on both

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thanks for the info. I did consider a MF635 with diesel, as they are a better size, however, didn't think it would be possible to get one for £15,000
 
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I had a MF625 with 90hp Suzuki about 4 years ago. It was dogs nads. Now got big brother - MF805 with 200hp Nanni. The engine is solid as they come - would definitely recommend Nanni. My friend has Beneteau 650 ( I think) with about 100 or 120 hp Nanni. Goes nicely. Try to get as big an engine as you can afford. Don't go for the small diesels. Loads of guys in Shotley have Arvors of all sizes and they always lok like solid boats. One guy is out all day every day in a smallish one (don't know model, sorry) in all conditions. Never looks worried about sea keeping and he's a sensible guy. I'll try to have an ask around for you. Most of the ones on the East Coast come from Essex Boatyards - try their website.

CD
 
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Have you been on a test drive of any of the Arvor,Ocqueteau,Beneteau,MFisher,Rodman,Faeton, Quicksilver,to mention a few, Peche Promenade types?

Strongly considered buying one about 5yrs ago but found that all the diesel powered ones were dreadfully noisy, especially when the engine was wholly,or partially under the wheelhouse floor. Most of the diesel shaft driven ones have this configuration.
Also, added to the mechanical noise is that produced by the slapping of the water on the hull, which is worse if the wheelhouse is open to the saloon/sleeping quarters. Definitely better with a door closing off this area.

We came to the conclusion that the outboard/outdrive powered models were noticably quieter.
You don't necessarily loose a bathing platform with these as two small areas sometimes exist either side of the engine.
You also tend to get more storage space on outboard driven boats and don't forget they will be much cheaper to buy and easier/cheaper to service.

If you decide to go the diesel route get the larger engine if you have a choice.

Have fun, whatever you choose!! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
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Hi

Ive previously had dealings with Essex Boatyards (EBY) They are the importers for Arvors, I keep an eye on there website from time to time and noticed they now have an 2004 Arvor 200 for sale 15k, which maybe worth looking at.

http://www.essexboatyards.com/boats/view.php/325/Arvor%20200%20Fish.html

Ive previously dealt with Dan as he seems to deal with all fishing boats down there. (dan@essexboatyards.com)

Good Luck
 
hi i own an arvor 180 with nanni 50hp and i pull 10 13 knots against the tide and is very very good on deisel and smooth and a much better engine and more relible than vw which vibrates badly and uses a lot more diesel to. my mate sold his arvor vw to go back nanni engine
 
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If you are planning on covering any distance when out fishing I would take a serious look at the performance of both the 50hp and 85hp Arvors. I would rule out the 50hp as being underpowered. If you are having to flog the engine to achieve decent performance the better fuel economy of a diesel is reduced. Think of it like this, you are going to pay more for an Arvor 18/20 with an inboard and unless you are covering big distances on each trip it will take you a long time to make that money back through increased fuel economy. You could get the same boat with say 75/90hp 4 stroke outboard which has vastly better performance and no engine box to take up space. If you open your mind to an outboard boat in the 18/20 bracket then there are vastly more boats to choose from.

A good friend has an Arvor 20 with the 85hp Nanni, great engine but come mid season with a bit of growth on the hull, he is struggling to cruise at 13 knots.
 
just think about outboard powered a bit more, fuel consumption on my MF625 with Suzuki DF90 was 14lph at 14knot cruise, 17lph at 18knots and it would do 26knots with a clean bottom (& 27lph.... but that was just playing) and at 6 knots it was around 4/5 lph, & 2/3 knots trolling speed 2lph. Had a friend with a MF650 with 85hp nanni, very noisy indeed. You need to have a think about exactly how many miles you plan to travel, will you be going sooo far that you need a diesel?? The Suzuki Df90 is whisper quiet, 100% reliable (IMO & experience) with a nice turn of speed & a good amount of torque and far more maneuverable than single shaft in this size of boat... With the patio doors shut at cruising speed she was very comfortable and quiet you could happy travel many miles tirelessly... MF625 also has sea toilet... I don't believe an Arvor at this size does & believe me this can extend you usage... ;)
 
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If you decide on an Arvor (Quicksilver), or Merry Fisher etc, when you have chosen the model you want , why not consider looking in northern France. The marinas are full of them, this type of "pesche promenade" is one of the most popular in France. I spent weeks going to virtually every marina/boatyard in Brittany looking for a boat to buy and I ended up with a "classic" 1 owner 1986, 22ft "Guy Couach" with an inboard 72 Iveco Diesel. I bought this because of the condition and they were built like a brick latrine. In my opinion, (Conway 26, Moody 30,Princess 33,Nauticat 33, Nauticus 27, Marina GT, Shetland Suntrip,Burland 26, etc.) a lot of modern boats are built like plastic bathtubs, you (or I did) want somthing built like a "nelson". Anyway boats in France are not selling, anyway if you follow this route of buying in France dont buy a French boat trailer as the one I bought for mine was horiffically expensive,
 
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just think about outboard powered a bit more, fuel consumption on my MF625 with Suzuki DF90 was 14lph at 14knot cruise, 17lph at 18knots and it would do 26knots with a clean bottom (& 27lph.... but that was just playing) and at 6 knots it was around 4/5 lph, & 2/3 knots trolling speed 2lph. Had a friend with a MF650 with 85hp nanni, very noisy indeed. You need to have a think about exactly how many miles you plan to travel, will you be going sooo far that you need a diesel?? The Suzuki Df90 is whisper quiet, 100% reliable (IMO & experience) with a nice turn of speed & a good amount of torque and far more maneuverable than single shaft in this size of boat... With the patio doors shut at cruising speed she was very comfortable and quiet you could happy travel many miles tirelessly... MF625 also has sea toilet... I don't believe an Arvor at this size does & believe me this can extend you usage... ;)
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We went through the process of choosing a +/- 20ft peche-promenade about 6 yrs ago.
Tried both outboard and inboard versions of various makes. Decided that the shaft driven diesel versions were far noisier than the outboard powered ones, atleast, up to WOT. Then, there wasn't much difference in volume but the tone was different and the speed was higher with an outboard design.
Ended up with a Ryds 23 Walkaround - diesel + sterndrive + relatively solid build.
 
Firefly625 said:
just think about outboard powered a bit more, fuel consumption on my MF625 with Suzuki DF90 was 14lph at 14knot cruise, 17lph at 18knots and it would do 26knots with a clean bottom (& 27lph.... but that was just playing) and at 6 knots it was around 4/5 lph, & 2/3 knots trolling speed 2lph. Had a friend with a MF650 with 85hp nanni, very noisy indeed. You need to have a think about exactly how many miles you plan to travel, will you be going sooo far that you need a diesel?? The Suzuki Df90 is whisper quiet, 100% reliable (IMO & experience) with a nice turn of speed & a good amount of torque and far more maneuverable than single shaft in this size of boat... With the patio doors shut at cruising speed she was very comfortable and quiet you could happy travel many miles tirelessly... MF625 also has sea toilet... I don't believe an Arvor at this size does & believe me this can extend you usage... ;)
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Firefly625 said:
just think about outboard powered a bit more, fuel consumption on my MF625 with Suzuki DF90 was 14lph at 14knot cruise, 17lph at 18knots and it would do 26knots with a clean bottom (& 27lph.... but that was just playing) and at 6 knots it was around 4/5 lph, & 2/3 knots trolling speed 2lph. Had a friend with a MF650 with 85hp nanni, very noisy indeed. You need to have a think about exactly how many miles you plan to travel, will you be going sooo far that you need a diesel?? The Suzuki Df90 is whisper quiet, 100% reliable (IMO & experience) with a nice turn of speed & a good amount of torque and far more maneuverable than single shaft in this size of boat... With the patio doors shut at cruising speed she was very comfortable and quiet you could happy travel many miles tirelessly... MF625 also has sea toilet... I don't believe an Arvor at this size does & believe me this can extend you usage... ;)
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Hi i have a 620hb with 90 hp susuki what prop did you have on thanks
 
The VW engine in the small Arvors had a problem. From memory I think it was their turbos. Check that it’s been replaced.
There used to be a Arvor Owners website, I was actually a member once because I was in the market for the 280 at the time. It was a very knowledgeable group of people on the site
 
Ohh! I didn’t realize ?‍♂️(Darn, it’s not often that I have something useful to contribute ??‍♂️?)
 
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