ARE you properly registered on MARS

[Happy1]

Have a look at the site below, feel free to make any comments about incorrect info on the search of your boat.

http://www.itu.int/cgi-bin/htsh/mars/ship_search.sh

Cheers,

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[snowleopard]

big brother is watching you...

but it's nice to know that when i fire off my epirb they will be know what boat they're looking for.

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[Martin_Billings]

Didn't know this site existed. Thanks. Amazingly all details seem to be registered correctly for me.

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[Happy1]

Thanks Martin.

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[charles_reed]

Interestingly all the UK info is correct and up to date but the EPIRB registered in the States doesn't come up.

Having had myself a good panic I've just sent a fax thro' to Steve Huxley @ Falmouth and will phone him tomorrow when he comes back into work - that's another pint I'll owe him.

And the bloody NOAA re-registration went back just over a year ago - and I had the decal back again.

even a search on the EPIRB no didn't bring the details up.

So thanks

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[Happy1]

Charles I know there has been a few people having a go at me, but I do believe that this is so important, if your EPIRB is not registered it makes a mockery of the system. I hope you get it all sorted out, just wonder how many others there are/forums/images/icons/wink.gif

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[Guest]

all my detail was correct, except that the emergency contact had been entered as the skipper. presumably that means that if we drown, anyone using the database will phone us!

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[tome]

My wife (nominated as emergency contact) is listed as owner!

I've contacted both RCA and ITU and they blame each other. Can't get it changed.

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[Jools_of_Top_Cat]

did you ask if they would know who to call in an emergency?

or was she listed as both?

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[tome]

Don't know - I need a username & password to access the emergency contact so can't see what it is.

RCA have 'confirmed' that the details they passed on to ITU are correct.

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[Happy1]

It would be ineteresting to know where the information is sent, as the ITU have no contacts in the UK, I think it may be Switzerland. You never know there could be a language difficulty where emergency contact mean boat owner and boat owner means emergency contact /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif Isn't it amazing we all put faith in systems and fill in our forms, but when they are questioned about wrong data being entered they don't want to know. Someone somewhere should as I mentioned earlier get a hold of this and force an answer. I am quite willing to do it if people want me to. I would just need details PM'd to me (when it is agreed I do it), then I would send a letter with a bulk pack of errors for an explanation.

let me know,

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[kimhollamby]

Polite note

However well intentioned please do not solicit personal details on the ybw.com forums; it is against our terms and conditions.

I would also suggest that your starting point is the Radiocommunications Agency. They have to hold your details under data protection act and you would be within your rights to request details of the same.

Furthermore suspect that the errors highlighted might be something to do with the way the RA database is mapped to ITU.

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[Happy1]

Re: Polite note

I have received a reply from an initial enquiry with the MCA (see below), they are informing the Radio Communications Agency, so at least something is now being done to identify the problem. I shall be raising the issue with the RA and ITU on Monday and will inform you of my findings, but from a previous post it seems the RA and ITU are blaming each other, what matters is that they address the problem and sort it out ASAP :-

Reply from MCA

Thank you for your telephone call this morning regarding the incorrect and incomplete information contained in the database accessible via the ITU website. You quoted particularly the instances where boat owners names were in fact the names of next of kin.

Thank you also for raising your concerns as to whether this information would be used in Search and Rescue incidents if a vessel was to get into trouble in foreign waters.

The information contained in this database appears to have come from (or via) the Radio Communications Agency, and it is to them that you should address your concerns. I can confirm that HM Coastguard do not use this source of information in Search and Rescue incidents, and that any information contained in the CG66 database is used only by HM Coastguard - it is retained within this organisation.

We will, however, bring this matter to the attention of the Radio Communications Agency.

Thank you for taking the trouble to bring this matter to our attention.

Yours sincerely

Mrs Wendy Wood
SAR Branch
Maritime and Coastguard Agency
Spring Place
105 Commercial Road
Southampton
SO15 1EG


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[LadyInBed]

What will the net result of all this be?

I reckon that http://www.itu.int/cgi-bin/htsh/mars/ship_search.sh will no longer be open to general scrutiny.

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[HMCG]

Re: Polite note

As an addendum to the message from Wendy Wood...

The coastguard do in fact use this database along with many others. our preference is to use the CG66 form as we can at least confirm that these were the details that were passed to us. Any use of external databases is seen as suspect and will not be relied on. However if you have not completed a CG66 it may be the only information we have and we will make use of it.

It pays to have a CG66 (but we won't get into that again).

Regards

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These are my own thoughts not the MCA's

 

[Happy1]

Re: Polite note

I have sent letters to both the RA and ITU requesting a full explanation, I will let everyone know if and when I get a reply. Thanks for your kind input my CG66 was sent yesterday /forums/images/icons/wink.gif with a note on it stating I will not be getting the boat until the 22/3/03, better safe than sorry.

Cheers,

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[petery]

..apparently SWMBO owns my boat

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[Mike_Martin]

Good Morning one and all,

Not a happy return to the Forum but ce la vie.

Haven't received the afore mentioned letters etc yet but I'm sure they're on their way, however, I have received a few e-mails bringing this to my attention, this morning.

Sit rep: I am looking into what has gone wrong (although initially I can't see what has as we follow ITU's instructions on the data to the letter) and have no information available as yet. However, as I find out I shall report here and I would be grateful if you could pass info on. I'll also do a wrap-up in the next edition of Airwaves.

In the meantime it would be helpful if you can e-mail your details (callsign and vessel name) to me if you find you're on MARS wrong but at the General e-mail address of ams@ra.gsi.gov.uk rather than direct one.

Regarding HMCG using wrong details, there shouldn't be a problem as MCA uses manual intervention to interpret the SRL data whereas ITU just dumps it on the system. However, I shall be ringing SHux next to give him a heads-up, just to be sure.

Stand by

Mike M


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[Mike_Martin]

Just a further thing it is usually better to just telephone me when things like this happen, all licensees have my number and my team's numbers available.

It's a tad worrying as I was at Falmouth meeting SHux last Tuesday and he didn't mention any of this!!

PS mentions of all SAR databases should be taken V.seriously! If you've got a boat and aren't CG66 registered. Why not?? It doesn't cost anything and it could help to save your life!! As for EPIRBS that aren't registered let's not go there eh!!

Mike M

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Aeronautical & Maritime Section,
Radiocommunications Agency

 

[Happy1]

Re: Polite note

A very quick and positive reply by the RA I think, I think they should be congratulated for their honesty and immediate action.

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