Are Harbour Masters gona be disrespected after Virus ?

[Capt Popeye]

Well having read various Harbour Master's prohibition notices over the last year, I get the impression that this Pandemic has really stretched their Brain powers and in particular their Political Acumen and abilitys far beyond their limit's

Often the Harbour Master has appeared to fall back upon Boat and Ship Building Authorities and similar Vested Interests for guidence in drafting the Port Authority guidences to clients and users . Surely these vested interest parties are Not our Govt or have any real knowledge or experience in Virus control or can effectively guide anyone impartially over the Virus rules as applied to Harbour uses ?

So when the Virus has mainly passed us by and some degree of normality in water bourne activities and pastimes has resumed, how will we or you reguard the Harbour Master, you know the one that probably went over and beyond the Govts rules and requests so preventing you get your spiritual and healthy activities ?

Might also add how will you treat that Boatyard or Marina manager or such who spouted the mantra - you leave it to us, stay at home, just pay us to do the jobs that you wanted to do but we prevented you from so doung ? Maybe not in strick alignment with our Govt ecommendations at all ?

 

[Adios]

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[Gary Fox]

My yacht is on the hard standing, not commercial but run by the local harbour masters.
The rules for access keep changing, from no restrictions, to total exclusion, to 'make an appointment'. They haven't got a clue, what to do, nobody accepts responsiblity for anything, and some jumped-up little tyrant in a uniform is enjoying a long-forgotten swelling in the trouser department, as he issues prohibitions, bans, rules, regulations, decrees and fatwa's left right and centre.

None of this could possibly have any effect on any disease, it's purely power-tripping by inadequate, impotent bureaucrats.
Actually, that describes much of the national response to the kung flu...

 

[25931]

Well having read various Harbour Master's prohibition notices over the last year, I get the impression that this Pandemic has really stretched their Brain powers and in particular their Political Acumen and abilitys far beyond their limit's

Often the Harbour Master has appeared to fall back upon Boat and Ship Building Authorities and similar Vested Interests for guidence in drafting the Port Authority guidences to clients and users . Surely these vested interest parties are Not our Govt or have any real knowledge or experience in Virus control or can effectively guide anyone impartially over the Virus rules as applied to Harbour uses ?

So when the Virus has mainly passed us by and some degree of normality in water bourne activities and pastimes has resumed, how will we or you reguard the Harbour Master, you know the one that probably went over and beyond the Govts rules and requests so preventing you get your spiritual and healthy activities ?

Might also add how will you treat that Boatyard or Marina manager or such who spouted the mantra - you leave it to us, stay at home, just pay us to do the jobs that you wanted to do but we prevented you from so doung ? Maybe not in strick alignment with our Govt ecommendations at all ?

You may not have to respect them on here but perhaps it would be wiser not to flout their authority.

 

[Gary Fox]

You may not have to respect them on here but perhaps it would be wiser not to flout their authority.

I completely disagree , you're saying we shouldn't discuss tyranny for fear of any potential consequences.

 

[prv]

It's HM's amongst others who 'flout' their authority

Unlikely.

flout
verb [ T ]

to intentionally not obey a rule, law, or custom:
Many motorcyclists flout the law by not wearing helmets.
The orchestra decided to flout convention/tradition, and wear their everyday clothes for the concert.

Pete

 

[Gary Fox]

Happy to be corrected about flouting. Post amended. What I wrote about impotent little tyrants in peaked caps still applies though.

 

[25931]

It's HM's amongst others who 'flout' their authority, apologies for the pedantry but words have meanings; perhaps 'question', 'challenge', or 'mock' would fit?
I completely disagree anyway, you're saying we shouldn't discuss tyranny for fear of any potential consequences.

As you have raised the question of pedantry flout means those words so perhaps you should look up "flaunt" .
You are obviously in a disagreeable mood for I did not say that we should not discuss, quite the contrary.

 

[25931]

Happy to be corrected about flouting. Post amended. What I wrote about impotent little tyrants in peaked caps still applies though.

To follow your thought about pedantry "impotent" is not apposite in that context, perhaps you meant self-important.

 

[Gary Fox]

As you have raised the question of pedantry flout means those words so perhaps you should look up "flaunt" .
You are obviously in a disagreeable mood for I did not say that we should not discuss, quite the contrary.

Apologies, I am in a disagreeable mood, not with anyone on the forum but with my HM who decides on a whim when I can paint my boat. Captn Popeye is to blame for triggering me

 

[Gary Fox]

To follow your thought about pedantry "impotent" is not apposite in that context, perhaps you meant self-important.

I genuinely think there is a connection between male sexual inadequacy and tyrannical behaviour. After all Hitler, only had one ball, the other, is in the Albert Hall, and so on.
Self-important is a great phrase though!

 

[Capt Popeye]

You may not have to respect them on here but perhaps it would be wiser not to flout their authority.

Ah well yes might be so, BUT I challenged the Exe HM where it was posted about the Authority Lock Down Rules virtually banning the use of Boats and Harbours (sanctuaries) in that river; basically my thrust was that he as a Habour Master should surely be championing the use of Boats and upholding the virtues of Boating as a healthy pastime of value to those who so indulge; rather that apparently stating that Boating does not carry any excersise value so is not allowed not no more in his teritory ?

I stated that the (OUR) Govt makes the Rules etc so best if he leaves the Govt to state the Rules and he ,as HM points us in that direction not try and restate rules as he thinks or understands them .; which is a thankless task as the Rules will constantly ammended , restated revised and so on, ad infiniteum ?

Re taking on a Harbour Master about his decisions etc; well in my past I have done so with varying degrees of success and failure; a sort of Win some and Loose some; just a case of picking one's arguments and deciding tackticks; in my favour {#

 

[Capt Popeye]

I genuinely think there is a connection between male sexual inadequacy and tyrannical behaviour. After all Hitler, only had one ball, the other, is in the Albert Hall, and so on.
Self-important is a great phrase though!

Kind Sir, are you suggesting that Harbour Masters should have a Medical before appointment ? mainly see if they have the b...s for the job ?

 

[eddystone]

I appreciate the sentiment but personally would avoid crossing QHM Plymouth as they have guns

 

[Never Grumble]

Might also add how will you treat that Boatyard or Marina manager or such who spouted the mantra - you leave it to us, stay at home, just pay us to do the jobs that you wanted to do but we prevented you from so doung ? Maybe not in strick alignment with our Govt ecommendations at all ?

with the same respect and loyalty towards their business as they have show towards their clients.

 

[rotrax]

I completely disagree , you're saying we shouldn't discuss tyranny for fear of any potential consequences.

We have a Harbour Authority alongside pontoon mooring.

Our particular Harbourmaster - so far - has been a paragon of virtue.

The Harbour Authority post their interpretation of the rules online, physicaly and by email to bertholders.

We have had no quarrel with their imposed covid lockdown regulations.

Because in the serious situation the country is facing they makes perfect sense.

 

[Lucky Duck]

We have a Harbour Authority alongside pontoon mooring.

Our particular Harbourmaster - so far - has been a paragon of virtue.

The Harbour Authority post their interpretation of the rules online, physicaly and by email to bertholders.

We have had no quarrel with their imposed covid lockdown regulations.

Because in the serious situation the country is facing they makes perfect sense.

This being the one who rivals Weymouth for the most miserable harbour master of the year by not opening their visitors pontoon at all this year?

 

[Gary Fox]

Billy is sound, if it's who I think you mean, but I haven't pulled in there since lockdown and I can imagine him being a stickler for rules and regulations.
But sometimes strictness is justified: Jetskis tread quietly, and fear his wrath

 

[Adios]

I stated that the (OUR) Govt makes the Rules etc so best if he leaves the Govt to state the Rules and he ,as HM points us in that direction not try and restate rules as he thinks or understands them .;

Bingo! We have a fine example in the Yealm HM doing exactly that (assuming they stick to it). It would be great if some of us emailed them to tell them what a great example they are for other HMs to follow. In case they get cold feet.

River Yealm Harbour Authority

Lockdown

During the forthcoming lockdown from Tuesday 5th January 2021 until further notice it is anticipated that the River Yealm Harbour will remain open. However, the Harbour Authority requests that harbour users adhere to the new Government restrictions in all respects. These may be found at the Government website Coronavirus (COVID-19): guidance and support under Restrictions in England.

River Yealm Harbour Authority
News (COVID-19) | River Yealm Harbour Authority

 

[Travelling Westerly]

I appreciate the sentiment but personally would avoid crossing QHM Plymouth as they have guns

Ha the QHM Plymouth used to be my DO and trust me he wouldnt know which was the dangerous end of a gun. Hope he's reading this!