rickp
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Re: Do not forget to fit a Seagull!
No, they were refering to http://www.generalecology.com/seagullivmarinerv.htm
Rick
No, they were refering to http://www.generalecology.com/seagullivmarinerv.htm
Rick
Aqua-Star Watch this Space
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jfm
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what\'s a Seagull!
It's a small filter (size of a can of baked beans) that fits under sink and filters water, so it tastes nicer for drinking. As well as slowing down the flowrate a bit. Link in jimg post above.
Form very rough memory they cost £60 or so. You change the filter every few months
I wouldn't worry about this in your spec list. It is a 20min job to cut the pipe under galley sink and retro fit. you have more important stuff to consider!
It's a small filter (size of a can of baked beans) that fits under sink and filters water, so it tastes nicer for drinking. As well as slowing down the flowrate a bit. Link in jimg post above.
Form very rough memory they cost £60 or so. You change the filter every few months
I wouldn't worry about this in your spec list. It is a 20min job to cut the pipe under galley sink and retro fit. you have more important stuff to consider!
glenndraper
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Re: what\'s a Seagull!
thanks for that, as you say this is one i shall fit retrospectively
thanks for that, as you say this is one i shall fit retrospectively
jimg
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Re: Do not forget to fit a Seagull!
A seagull ( in this context ) is a water purifier. It is the rolls royce of products for making sure you have perfect drinking water without resorting to bottled water.
http://www.generalecology.com/marinesystem.htm
Available from here in UK
http://www.generalecology.com/marinerv.html
A seagull ( in this context ) is a water purifier. It is the rolls royce of products for making sure you have perfect drinking water without resorting to bottled water.
http://www.generalecology.com/marinesystem.htm
Available from here in UK
http://www.generalecology.com/marinerv.html
glenndraper
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
can anyone explain the difference between ships register 1 and 3 and which is considered to be most advantageous? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
can anyone explain the difference between ships register 1 and 3 and which is considered to be most advantageous? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Whitelighter
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
Ok, I'll have a crack at this.
Part III (or the SSR - Small Ships Register) is a very informal way of noting the vessel flag. It costs around £20, and the vessel information is supplied by the owner on the understanding of good faith. Easy to obtain, and produces a small certificate that really does no more than prove you have paid £20 to register the vessel in the UK.
Part I registration is a lot more involved. It requires an official survey to assess the gross tonnage of the vessel (this is not the weight, but effectively the interior volume), requires the official number and gross tonnage to be marked (carved) on the beam of the boat and forms a much more water tight form of registration. Any money owed secured against the boat can be recorded, and for multiple owners the vessel can be devided up into shares equating to 1/64th of the vessel. If one person owns it, you will own 64/64th, but you could choose to have 32/64th, and your wife 32/64ths (useful for estate calculations etc etc). Part I is preferable, but more expensive. Also, the name of a Part I vessel MUST be unique from any other Part I registered vessel
Ok, I'll have a crack at this.
Part III (or the SSR - Small Ships Register) is a very informal way of noting the vessel flag. It costs around £20, and the vessel information is supplied by the owner on the understanding of good faith. Easy to obtain, and produces a small certificate that really does no more than prove you have paid £20 to register the vessel in the UK.
Part I registration is a lot more involved. It requires an official survey to assess the gross tonnage of the vessel (this is not the weight, but effectively the interior volume), requires the official number and gross tonnage to be marked (carved) on the beam of the boat and forms a much more water tight form of registration. Any money owed secured against the boat can be recorded, and for multiple owners the vessel can be devided up into shares equating to 1/64th of the vessel. If one person owns it, you will own 64/64th, but you could choose to have 32/64th, and your wife 32/64ths (useful for estate calculations etc etc). Part I is preferable, but more expensive. Also, the name of a Part I vessel MUST be unique from any other Part I registered vessel
glenndraper
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
Jezbanks - I think that your answer and explanation is one of the most succinct I have read - I think we need to be part 1. registered - Thank you very much
Jezbanks - I think that your answer and explanation is one of the most succinct I have read - I think we need to be part 1. registered - Thank you very much
jfm
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
Glenn, where are you going to berth the boat and use her in the first few years? And do you plan on using her as non VAT paid? These things ought to be taken into account in choosing the exact form of registration
Glenn, where are you going to berth the boat and use her in the first few years? And do you plan on using her as non VAT paid? These things ought to be taken into account in choosing the exact form of registration
glenndraper
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
Hi JFM- we shall keep her in Duquesa on the costa del sol - that is where we keep our beloved Squadron 59. We shall account for VAT.
Hi JFM- we shall keep her in Duquesa on the costa del sol - that is where we keep our beloved Squadron 59. We shall account for VAT.
Renegade_Master
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
Psssst..... Glenn I think the length limit in Duq is 20m, is the 65 over that? only they would not let me bring a Man 64 there last year.
Psssst..... Glenn I think the length limit in Duq is 20m, is the 65 over that? only they would not let me bring a Man 64 there last year.
glenndraper
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
no clive it is 19.89 mtrs /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif and a manhattan 64 is LOA 20.3 mtrs oooops!!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
no clive it is 19.89 mtrs /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif and a manhattan 64 is LOA 20.3 mtrs oooops!!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
glenndraper
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
I still think duq is being awfull not letting you in for only .3 of a mtr thats just 1 ft
I still think duq is being awfull not letting you in for only .3 of a mtr thats just 1 ft
glenndraper
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
perhaps that is why they are now 1/2 empty /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
perhaps that is why they are now 1/2 empty /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
glenndraper
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
is yours back in and with no probs Clive?
is yours back in and with no probs Clive?
glenndraper
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
clive have you gone to sleep or arnt you speaking to me now /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
clive have you gone to sleep or arnt you speaking to me now /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
glenndraper
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
Hi All, Slightly new problem I could do with some suggestions with - We have to chose the make/type of Navigation package for the Aqua-Star - I am used to Garmin on my Squadron but It would be nice to have something that i could utilize my computer with so that I could input passage making at home - then just download when on the boat. I'm afraid I'm not very good at the tech side of things - so would welcome some advice.
Hi All, Slightly new problem I could do with some suggestions with - We have to chose the make/type of Navigation package for the Aqua-Star - I am used to Garmin on my Squadron but It would be nice to have something that i could utilize my computer with so that I could input passage making at home - then just download when on the boat. I'm afraid I'm not very good at the tech side of things - so would welcome some advice.
glenndraper
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
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Hi All, Slightly new problem I could do with some suggestions with - We have to chose the make/type of Navigation package for the Aqua-Star - I am used to Garmin on my Squadron but It would be nice to have something that i could utilize my computer with so that I could input passage making at home - then just download when on the boat. I'm afraid I'm not very good at the tech side of things - so would welcome some advice.
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Hi All, Slightly new problem I could do with some suggestions with - We have to chose the make/type of Navigation package for the Aqua-Star - I am used to Garmin on my Squadron but It would be nice to have something that i could utilize my computer with so that I could input passage making at home - then just download when on the boat. I'm afraid I'm not very good at the tech side of things - so would welcome some advice.
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Hurricane
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
Hi Glen
IMHO as follows:-
I've always considered Garmin for hand held devices - not sure how well it integrates to Auto Pilots and Radar etc.
I would buy a plotter of the same make as the Radar anyway.
Raymarine does everything you say.
So does Simrad and Furuno.
How do you want to use the PC?
If all you want is to download routes etc into a card and then plug it into the boat, then, the way I see it the following applies:-
I think it depends which chart supplier you use (Navionics or C-Map)
For Raymarine (Navionics) you use rge RNS software and their card reader - the RNS software is free for this purpose.
For Simrad and the others (C-MAP), I believe that C-Map's PC Planner does the job.
If you actually want to connect your PC (perhaps a laptop) to the boat there are other options - again depends on the manufacturer.
I had a look at MaxSea to work with Furuno - IMHO it is crap. Even though it uses an IP LAN connection, it was far too slow to do anything useful.
I tried the Raymarine RNS and that seemed to work ok though.
I use the flash card system at the moment with PC Planner and C-MAP but I've been planning a more sophisticated, more integrated system for my next boat.
This time, I'm goint to integrate a PC into the "on board" systems.
Still going to use dedicated plotters/displays to do the actual work but feed them from a fixed "on board" PC.
My thoughts are - "you want to cruise from A to B"
So you run the PC with something like Memory-Map (using its own charts) and simply click click click to make a route (its many times easier to create a route using a PC) - upload to the dedicated plotters and off you go - no need to do the home planning by downloading through flash cards etc.
There are other advantages as well - I would then use the "on board PC" during the passage as a completely separate system to check on the progress of the main systems and a much better track/log is created on the PC. Using this technique, any of the manufacturers would do.
Anyway - thats what I'm planning.
Hi Glen
IMHO as follows:-
I've always considered Garmin for hand held devices - not sure how well it integrates to Auto Pilots and Radar etc.
I would buy a plotter of the same make as the Radar anyway.
Raymarine does everything you say.
So does Simrad and Furuno.
How do you want to use the PC?
If all you want is to download routes etc into a card and then plug it into the boat, then, the way I see it the following applies:-
I think it depends which chart supplier you use (Navionics or C-Map)
For Raymarine (Navionics) you use rge RNS software and their card reader - the RNS software is free for this purpose.
For Simrad and the others (C-MAP), I believe that C-Map's PC Planner does the job.
If you actually want to connect your PC (perhaps a laptop) to the boat there are other options - again depends on the manufacturer.
I had a look at MaxSea to work with Furuno - IMHO it is crap. Even though it uses an IP LAN connection, it was far too slow to do anything useful.
I tried the Raymarine RNS and that seemed to work ok though.
I use the flash card system at the moment with PC Planner and C-MAP but I've been planning a more sophisticated, more integrated system for my next boat.
This time, I'm goint to integrate a PC into the "on board" systems.
Still going to use dedicated plotters/displays to do the actual work but feed them from a fixed "on board" PC.
My thoughts are - "you want to cruise from A to B"
So you run the PC with something like Memory-Map (using its own charts) and simply click click click to make a route (its many times easier to create a route using a PC) - upload to the dedicated plotters and off you go - no need to do the home planning by downloading through flash cards etc.
There are other advantages as well - I would then use the "on board PC" during the passage as a completely separate system to check on the progress of the main systems and a much better track/log is created on the PC. Using this technique, any of the manufacturers would do.
Anyway - thats what I'm planning.
Renegade_Master
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
Hi Glen no not asleep just resting. Met up on Friday with your crew from the Aquastar test. they send there regards.
Get your point about the Marina being pedantic and inflexible about boat lengths, I mean whats all the fuss about just 12 inches :~)
I think they have been loosing boats due to their rising prices and their general attitude.
I am currently going the legal route with them about a certain additional restraint they are attempting, which smells of retrictive practice, they are trying to force a monopoly.
Will PM you with more our gis a call in my office today if you have time. 952 890553. It effects you too.
Clive
Hi Glen no not asleep just resting. Met up on Friday with your crew from the Aquastar test. they send there regards.
Get your point about the Marina being pedantic and inflexible about boat lengths, I mean whats all the fuss about just 12 inches :~)
I think they have been loosing boats due to their rising prices and their general attitude.
I am currently going the legal route with them about a certain additional restraint they are attempting, which smells of retrictive practice, they are trying to force a monopoly.
Will PM you with more our gis a call in my office today if you have time. 952 890553. It effects you too.
Clive
Gludy
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Re: Aqua-Star detail fit out
Glenn
I would go for the Raymarine E series.
You can also integrate the video cameras into these.
I use the route planning on my PC at home and simple take the flash card in to upload. = and vice versa.
On my next boat I am going for two Raymarine units so that one is always on radar plus a large 15 inch Raymarine screen to one side with the Ray chart package plus a Yeoman plotter as I like to update physical charts during the journey. You can also pipe the Raymarine plotter signal through to some TV’s if you want so that passengers can see where they are.
Having used the Platinum forward sonar from Echopilot I would go for the USA system next time.
I would also go Rymarine on the radio and have that DSC integrated into the plotter – this will enable you to see the position of friends boats etc providing they have DSC radios.
I
Glenn
I would go for the Raymarine E series.
You can also integrate the video cameras into these.
I use the route planning on my PC at home and simple take the flash card in to upload. = and vice versa.
On my next boat I am going for two Raymarine units so that one is always on radar plus a large 15 inch Raymarine screen to one side with the Ray chart package plus a Yeoman plotter as I like to update physical charts during the journey. You can also pipe the Raymarine plotter signal through to some TV’s if you want so that passengers can see where they are.
Having used the Platinum forward sonar from Echopilot I would go for the USA system next time.
I would also go Rymarine on the radio and have that DSC integrated into the plotter – this will enable you to see the position of friends boats etc providing they have DSC radios.
I
