Fergus
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Just trying to check how limited I'm going to be with 2.3m - Brittany/South Coast - e.g. Bembridge etc?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Anyone with 2m+ draught?
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fireball
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I only get to 1.8m ..... and it ain't that bad .....
Will_M
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The old's boat is close to 2.2 draft, they often go into Bembridge, granted its sits on the bottom when the plugs pulled, but its never really any problem.
Fergus
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Many of the Brittany marinas with sills say they are maintained to a depth of 2m..
Barr Avel
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Chartered a Oceanis with 2.2 draught this summer in South Brittany. Ok for marinas, but certainly does limit your range up rivers and places like the Glenans are that little bit more of navigational headache.
Although the yacht's performance was fantastic I wouldn't charter it again because of the limitations due to draught.
But then I am a fan of lifting and bilge keels.
Although the yacht's performance was fantastic I wouldn't charter it again because of the limitations due to draught.
But then I am a fan of lifting and bilge keels.
Robin
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We have 2.08m (6'10" in real money) and have no problems. St Peter Port marina has a 2m limit and will only allow us on the hammerheads and not alongside another boat, but we choose to stay outside in the Pool anyway rather than wait even longer to get over the sill. Some harbour approaches in Brittany/Atlantic West France are iffy at LWS, like La Rochelle, Port La Foret, Port Du Crouesty but they can be a problem even with say 1.8m on big springs. La Chambre in Isles De Glenan has deep enough pools once you are in there but not on the normal ways in and NOT on their buoys, on really big springs more depth is off Penfret. Camaret inner marina would be a problem, not so in the outer one, at anchor or on their buoys.
Closer to home Lymington will get your depth alarm going and at LWS you will be aground on the buoys/pontoon up by Town Quay, but coming to/from Poole you will usually be at/near HW so the river is less of a problem than it might be. Yarmouth outer buoys are OK, inner row maybe not on big springs and inside the harbour OK too.
Generally you will find that you anchor in much the same spots as before because it is unlikely you would do your calculations to the nearest 50mm and you are coming from a fin keeler anyway not shoal draft.
A bigger problem might be Poole lift out facilities. We need the bigger springs to come out at our club in Poole, not to mention their only BIG cradle and Davis's had a problem with our size and draft too when we asked.
Edited to add we also have no problem with Perros Guirec, Treguier (take care in the bottom of the river at LWS) Trebeurden or L'Aberwrac'h (boat is too big for their marina anyway) but Ploumanac'h might be a no no.
Closer to home Lymington will get your depth alarm going and at LWS you will be aground on the buoys/pontoon up by Town Quay, but coming to/from Poole you will usually be at/near HW so the river is less of a problem than it might be. Yarmouth outer buoys are OK, inner row maybe not on big springs and inside the harbour OK too.
Generally you will find that you anchor in much the same spots as before because it is unlikely you would do your calculations to the nearest 50mm and you are coming from a fin keeler anyway not shoal draft.
A bigger problem might be Poole lift out facilities. We need the bigger springs to come out at our club in Poole, not to mention their only BIG cradle and Davis's had a problem with our size and draft too when we asked.
Edited to add we also have no problem with Perros Guirec, Treguier (take care in the bottom of the river at LWS) Trebeurden or L'Aberwrac'h (boat is too big for their marina anyway) but Ploumanac'h might be a no no.
Fergus
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Thanks Robin - Davis's have said they can just about take us. I'll just need to watch the tides!
AIDY
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Agree about L'Aberwrac'h - we draw 2m and are 40 foot long we were aground on the hammerhead for 2 hours of the tide, this summer. youre be okay on the buoys.
rich
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This was Carteret, when someone sat on the sill gate![image]
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rich
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Robin
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L\'Aberwrac\'h
I think the marina is intended for boats up to 10m but like most rules in France gets ignored! That apart there is plenty of depth on the buoys as you say but these days we anchor just outside of them upriver or off the Lifeboat house, it's not only cheaper but avoids any possibilty of being rafted up (which they do) not to mention ripped off! If the weather gets really bad we go upriver to Paluden, half the mooring cost, totally sheltered and a decent supermarket about 1ml away.
I think the marina is intended for boats up to 10m but like most rules in France gets ignored! That apart there is plenty of depth on the buoys as you say but these days we anchor just outside of them upriver or off the Lifeboat house, it's not only cheaper but avoids any possibilty of being rafted up (which they do) not to mention ripped off! If the weather gets really bad we go upriver to Paluden, half the mooring cost, totally sheltered and a decent supermarket about 1ml away.
AIDY
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Re: L\'Aberwrac\'h
there were some bigger bavs closer in too... it will be better when the new marina basin is open. the single pontoon is not the best in the world. with no end support. it swings with the tide.
there were some bigger bavs closer in too... it will be better when the new marina basin is open. the single pontoon is not the best in the world. with no end support. it swings with the tide.
Robin
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Re: L\'Aberwrac\'h
L'Aberwrac'h which is run by Yacht Club des Abers has been run down for a few years now despite the high charges they make for the buoys. We didn't go ashore there this year as we only stopped overnight on our way back home, but nothing looked to have changed. There is nowhere to leave a tender and the ramp up from the 'marina' has been a safety hazard for several years unless they have now fixed it.
We anchored at the upstream end of the buoys (about 16m at HW) and were moved on (25m) by the man in the launch who said we were anchored in his 'marina', ie inside his buoys boundary. He said why did we want to anchor when there were plenty of free buoys? I said they weren't free but 22 Euros and besides we preferred to anchor so we moved the required 25m and bought lunch in Perros Guirec next stop with the money. I could also have reminded him of the last time we used his buoys and his 'free launch service' that left us stranded ashore waiting for his promised last run back at 10pm, we waited from 9.45 to 10.30pm and luckily some others with a dinghy dropped us back.
L'Aberwrac'h which is run by Yacht Club des Abers has been run down for a few years now despite the high charges they make for the buoys. We didn't go ashore there this year as we only stopped overnight on our way back home, but nothing looked to have changed. There is nowhere to leave a tender and the ramp up from the 'marina' has been a safety hazard for several years unless they have now fixed it.
We anchored at the upstream end of the buoys (about 16m at HW) and were moved on (25m) by the man in the launch who said we were anchored in his 'marina', ie inside his buoys boundary. He said why did we want to anchor when there were plenty of free buoys? I said they weren't free but 22 Euros and besides we preferred to anchor so we moved the required 25m and bought lunch in Perros Guirec next stop with the money. I could also have reminded him of the last time we used his buoys and his 'free launch service' that left us stranded ashore waiting for his promised last run back at 10pm, we waited from 9.45 to 10.30pm and luckily some others with a dinghy dropped us back.
AIDY
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Re: L\'Aberwrac\'h
your quite right... not changed much still the old pontoon thats falling apart and know where to moor the dingy. not much there apart from a nice walk up a long hill to the signal station. we only use it as a stopping off place from falmouth.
your quite right... not changed much still the old pontoon thats falling apart and know where to moor the dingy. not much there apart from a nice walk up a long hill to the signal station. we only use it as a stopping off place from falmouth.
Robin
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Re: L\'Aberwrac\'h
We don't stop there at all going south, just going home. The restaurant over the road from the YC does reasonable food though, from Pizza/pasta on up. Better still if staying more than overnight is up at Paluden especially if you need supplies, there is a Leclerc supermarket up the road at Lanilis (uphill, but downhill when loaded!)
We went in 2 years ago in 25m vis and with spring tides sluicing across the track in, 'interesting' excercise in plotter/radar and cycle clips - especially when confronted with around 20 Hobie Cats tacking out in that visibility as we came in!
We don't stop there at all going south, just going home. The restaurant over the road from the YC does reasonable food though, from Pizza/pasta on up. Better still if staying more than overnight is up at Paluden especially if you need supplies, there is a Leclerc supermarket up the road at Lanilis (uphill, but downhill when loaded!)
We went in 2 years ago in 25m vis and with spring tides sluicing across the track in, 'interesting' excercise in plotter/radar and cycle clips - especially when confronted with around 20 Hobie Cats tacking out in that visibility as we came in!
AIDY
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Re: L\'Aberwrac\'h
not tried going any further up river but read about it. thanks for the tip.
Is the restraunt the one with the big court yard. The local doctor suggested to us that it was the only place to eat in town. (well he went there with the 50e i gave him after coming out to see a crew member).
We had an interesting passage out of there this year in 25m vis never saw anything until we arrives a few miles off cameret. then brilliant sun shine.
why is it every shopping trip in france involves going up hill /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
not tried going any further up river but read about it. thanks for the tip.
Is the restraunt the one with the big court yard. The local doctor suggested to us that it was the only place to eat in town. (well he went there with the 50e i gave him after coming out to see a crew member).
We had an interesting passage out of there this year in 25m vis never saw anything until we arrives a few miles off cameret. then brilliant sun shine.
why is it every shopping trip in france involves going up hill /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Robin
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Re: L\'Aberwrac\'h
Yes it is the one with the big courtyard. Try the double plate meal of Carpaccios, 2 platefuls of differently marinaded raw slices of beef and each plate comes with fries!
We can usually do without the enforced uphill shopping trips as we have a big fridge! We stocked to the brim in Camaret, so didn't need to go up the hill in L'Aberwrac'h or the big hill in Perros Guirec, even skipped going ashore in St Peter Port (anchored outside in Havelet) and then did a final shop in Cherbourg on the level before reluctantly going home.
Shame it is all another year away now. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Yes it is the one with the big courtyard. Try the double plate meal of Carpaccios, 2 platefuls of differently marinaded raw slices of beef and each plate comes with fries!
We can usually do without the enforced uphill shopping trips as we have a big fridge! We stocked to the brim in Camaret, so didn't need to go up the hill in L'Aberwrac'h or the big hill in Perros Guirec, even skipped going ashore in St Peter Port (anchored outside in Havelet) and then did a final shop in Cherbourg on the level before reluctantly going home.
Shame it is all another year away now. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
