Anyone in Lymington got courtesy flags for the Channel Islands?

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Weather-bound in Lymington and the local chandlers have had a run on courtesy flags for Alderney and Jersey.
Anyone local who's happy to lend/flog-on theirs?
Hoping to leave early Wednesday morning.
Thanks
 
Babylon said:
Weather-bound in Lymington and the local chandlers have had a run on courtesy flags for Alderney and Jersey.
Anyone local who's happy to lend/flog-on theirs?
Hoping to leave early Wednesday morning.
Thanks
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Have you tried calling the chandler in Yarmouth? Not very far if you pick your time and tide right even if it's blowy and they probably have not had a run on these flags.
 
Alderney, with Cherbourg as an alternative first stop, then onto Guernsey and Jersey.

My girlfriend has no experience offshore and I wish to avoid putting her through a heavy crossing, so I'm waiting for the current 'complex' series of fronts to pass.

Wednesday looks reasonable, although with the wind lighter and moving into the south during the day, it looks like a motorsail to make the passage.
 
Fair point re IOW but many do for Cornwall, just as they might for Scotland.

Personally I haven't hoisted a courtesy flag for C.I. but I think it's a nice touch to show some courtesy for the area you visit.
 
akyaka said:
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You don't put up a IoW courtesy flag when visiting do you ?

http://www.southcoastflagpoles.co.uk/pics/iow.jpg
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IOW is a county, the CIs are Bailiwicks. You DO hoist one for Isle of Man, Falklands and Gibraltar and should for the CIs too. The difference is whether they are a part of the UK or just "British". The CIs are not a part of the United Kingdom and so might not use the same Ensign as a UK registered boat and therefore a courtesy flag is the correct thing to do.

I'm not bothered either way, just thought I ought to point out that they are in no way similar to IOW.
 
lustyd said:
IOW is a county, the CIs are Bailiwicks. You DO hoist one for Isle of Man, Falklands and Gibraltar and should for the CIs too. The difference is whether they are a part of the UK or just "British". The CIs are not a part of the United Kingdom and so might not use the same Ensign as a UK registered boat and therefore a courtesy flag is the correct thing to do.

I'm not bothered either way, just thought I ought to point out that they are in no way similar to IOW.
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I and most other regular visitors to the I of M never hoist a courtesey flag

The Guernsey and Jersey flags are very modern affectations indeed I think that Jersey used the red ensign until very recently and the I of M is a defaced red ensign
 
akyaka said:
I and most other regular visitors to the I of M never hoist a courtesey flag

The Guernsey and Jersey flags are very modern affectations indeed I think that Jersey used the red ensign until very recently and the I of M is a defaced red ensign
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I'm a regular visitor to IOM myself, and have never used the courtesy flag. I didn't say I was bothered, I didn't say that's what happenned, I said it was "correct". If it was my boat I went to the IOM on every time I'd have bought one by now, same for Ireland, but then I quite like flags. As I said, I don't care if other people bother I just quite like the tradition.
 
As someone from the CI's I would not be offended.

If you are UK flagged you don't need to fly an Alderney, Guernsey or Jersey courtesy flag unless this is some type of Competition as to who can have the most regional flags?.
 
Bandit said:
As someone from the CI's I would not be offended.

If you are UK flagged you don't need to fly an Alderney, Guernsey or Jersey courtesy flag unless this is some type of Competition as to who can have the most regional flags?.
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Great, thanks for that - one less thing I have to worry about!
 
lustyd said:
IOW is a county, the CIs are Bailiwicks. You DO hoist one for Isle of Man, Falklands and Gibraltar and should for the CIs too. The difference is whether they are a part of the UK or just "British". The CIs are not a part of the United Kingdom and so might not use the same Ensign as a UK registered boat and therefore a courtesy flag is the correct thing to do.

I'm not bothered either way, just thought I ought to point out that they are in no way similar to IOW.
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+1.

Whether you do or don't is up to you. But, Lustyd has rightly corrected some earlier erroneous responses concerning the difference between "British Isles" and United Kingdom.
 
Angele said:
+1.

Whether you do or don't is up to you. But, Lustyd has rightly corrected some earlier erroneous responses concerning the difference between "British Isles" and United Kingdom.
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No just a pedantic response to the illustrative comparison of islands in responding to the nonsense of overly concern over use of courtesy flags and which pointed out that the I of W also has a courtesy flag.

If that comment was aimed at me, surely there is a difference between pedantry and correcting information that is simply wrong.
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But it wasn't wrong. I made no comparison of their status under the crown and MASH rightly identified that the CI are part of the British Isles.
 
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akyaka said:
But it wasn't wrong. I made no comparison of their status under the crown and MASH rightly identified that the CI are part of the British Isles.
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Mash's comment, whilst factually correct, is totally irrelevant to the question of flags.

The British Isles is a geographical concept, not a political one. To suggest that "British Isles" has any bearing on which flag to fly (which is clearly what Mash's posting did) is like suggesting you should fly the same flag when visiting Norway and Sweden because they are both in Scandinavia.

National flags (and hence courtesy flags) are determined by political boundaries, not geographical ones.

As an aside, and in no way a response to your post, I would also point out that, as a Jerseyman, I have the same reaction to being called English as would someone born in Scotland or Wales.
 
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Angele said:
The British Isles is a geographical concept, not a political one. To suggest that "British Isles" has any bearing on which flag to fly (which is clearly what Mash's posting did) is like suggesting you should fly the same flag when visiting Norway and Sweden because they are both in Scandinavia.

National flags (and hence courtesy flags) are determined by political boundaries, not geographical ones.

Whilst not in any way a response to your post, I would also point out that, as a Jerseyman, I have the same reaction to being called English as would someone born in Scotland or Wales.
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Ah moving the goalposts, status of the entities was not mentioned in your initial response which was

But, Lustyd has rightly corrected some earlier erroneous responses concerning the difference between "British Isles" and United Kingdom.
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How come the I of W , Cornwall and other places have courtesy flags then and didn't Jersey use the red ensign until recently.

I fully respect your desire to be called a Jerseyman
 
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