Another YM question...

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Following the debate about the Open60 rescues, I realised we haven't had a good "what would you do" scenario for ages.... so here's one....

Late last year, you bought a new boat, a modern design with a wide stern. You've been thoroughly delighted with it, and somewhat suprised at how well it handles a stiff breeze compared to your expectations. It however, hasn't been throughly tested yet, with the strongest wind you've sailed her in being 30kts.

Following a great passage over to Bray overnight from Portsmouth, your two crew are tired, but after arriving at Bray late morning, you've been out, done a bit of sight seeing, and then visited the pub..... everyone is too tired to stay in the pub long, so only a single pint is consumed each.

Imagine your suprise on leaving the pub to find that the wind has picked up dramatically, and is blowing quite freshly from the East, and swing further north on occasions.... an unpleasant tender ride back to the boat reveals 25kts East North East..... it appears that the low over the North of the UK is tracking further south than expected. Looking at the Barometer, it has fallen 7mb since your arrival at 11h00 that morning. You had to motor a great deal of the way from Portsmouth, and so don't have much fuel left.

Bray is no place to be in a gale, so its obvious that we need to move on.....

However, with a tired crew, and a less than ideal forecast a run back to the English coastline looks unappealing, and Guernsey seems a bad choice given the need to negotiate the Swinge and Little Russell in the dark, wind and probable poor sea state. A night riding the storm out at sea with a tired crew is equally unattractive, so the obvious choice is to head for Cherbourg.... only a few hours....

So you set off.

The passage starts well, with great SOG, but as you pass Cap de la Hague, the sea state seems to be worsening, and then over the course of 20mins, the wind builds to 45kts. despite now being on the 3rd reef (and you thank your lucky stars you paid extra for that 3rd reefing point) and having the hanked on storm jib set, you are very heavily pressed, the boat is well on her ear, and making more leeway than forward motion. You are all exhausted, and the next major action on board will probably be your last before you are all too tired to do anything....

What do you do next?
 
To aid the decision making process, please ....


The following questions (no priority):

Any form of parasail sea anchor, or the means to make one up?

Are your comms / nav & DR reliable, and do you have a spare vhf / DSC / GPS ?

Can the boat heave-to reliably / easily ?

Is everyone fed and watered, albeit tired ?

Who onshore knows where you are ?
 
No, there is no sea anchor on-board, as you only really cruise the channel during the summer, but the comms are working just fine, with a good quality DSC VHF in place.

You don't know if the boat will heave too, as only having had it a few months, its something you've not got around to trying yet.....

You all had a sandwich an hour ago, and a quick drink, so while you aren't completely fed and watered, you aren't desperate for food or liquids either. Which is a good job as its a lateral galley, and no-one really fancies trying to get any nourishments together in these conditions.

Your wife back home knows where you are, you phoned her just before leaving Alderney, and promised to keep her informed of progress. A quick check of your mobile reveals that you are close enough inshore to get a signal.
 
Given that it's a modern boat, you roll up the foresail, start the engine and press on. And send at least one of the crew to bed in case you need them later.

In an older boat (i.e. mine) I'd have set a course for the English coast west of the Solent somewhere, i.e. off the wind and send both crew to bed. Mind you, heading upwind to a port on a lee shore in rising gale in the first place would not have been my idea of running for a port of refuge.

Ah, just re-read the question and noticed trhe lack of fuel. Plan B it is then.
 
You have also discovered one of the major drawbacks of modern boat design, in that none of the berths really present a proper opportunity to sleep. You remember wistfully, the lovely sea berths on your previous 1981 boat, and think about how you might have grabbed some sleep there, even in 45kts of wind and a heavy sea. In this new boat, it looks unrealistic.
 
Neil

You dont say anything about tides, but as you suggest a good speed over the ground heading for Cap de la Hague, I would assume it was rising. If that was the case to head for Cherbourg with a N -NE and an easterly flowing tide around CdlH would not be IMO a wise choice of refuge, you would also have a lee shore for about 20 odd miles.

Although you would be running across the tide, to head for Dielette would be a much better refuge. With the wind NE you would be sailing on a reach, much more comfortable than your close hauled and as you approach Dielette you would benefit from the shelter of the Cherbourg peninsular.
 
Hee hee good point about the wind.... I never thought that one through did I!

How do you know that the boat will make windward progress heaved to...... it might.... it might not..... it might not even want to heave to at all, you've never tried it.....
 
I'm not quite sure what point of sailing you are on to head towards Cherbourg from Braye in ENE gale! I presume you are fairly close-hauled on port? and it sounds as if the tide is East-going given that you have great SOG.

Firstly I would seriously question the wisdom of setting off up wind in a gale to pass Cap de la Hague in a severe Gale.

I would tend to go onto Port and find a comfortable point of sail on a close reach. Then depending how the weather develops you could either continue back to the English Coast or tack back towards Cherbourg once you can reach it on a comfortable tack.
 
OK... its a made up scenario!

Urm...tide..... yes lets say its rising....

I don't know Dielette, is it a safe entry in a blow and big sea at night?

Regardless, you've made a bad decision and you are in the situation you are in.... you still need to decide what to do next.....
 
In a E-NE Dielette would be safe, if the wind went NW, then not so. If the crew are capable of crossing the channel to Braye, then even if they have never been into Deiltte before they should be able to work it out from the pilot book they have or even their copy of Redds, Oh! your not going to tell be now they dont have a pilot book or a Reeds! /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
I'd find the most comfortable point of sail that takes you away from any land to leeward, and settle down on that course, sending one crew at a time to go below and get some rest, and then await the next card the weather deals. As this lot has come up quite quickly, I wouldn't expect it to last.
 
They have both a pilot and Reeds on board, but they made a poor decision in heading towards Cherbourg, not recognising that the fast falling barometer might mean the 25kt winds would be increasing..... so they are in a situation of their own making......
 
So in your senario there is no scope for making the right choice of refuge before they left Braye, they are headed toward Cherbourg come what may? If that is the case theres nothing wrong with the boat its the skipper who should be in question!

Do you have a solution in mind?
 
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I'd find the most comfortable point of sail that takes you away from any land to leeward, and settle down on that course, sending one crew at a time to go below and get some rest, and then await the next card the weather deals. As this lot has come up quite quickly, I wouldn't expect it to last.

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Come on Ken, you know that area as well as anyone, if the tide is East going then you will have huge seas running, then when the tide turns you would be off down the Alderney Race like acork out of a bottle. Head out into the Channel to hove too and your going to have commercial shipping to watch out for. Then in the conditions described when the tide ebbs, Casccets here we come!
 
Sort of took it for granted they'd do whatever was necc with the sails. It's what sailors do, innit?

Alright then, drop what's left of the main then set off on a broad reach under storm jib (or almost-all rolled-up genny), in the vague direction of Torbay.

What these guys want for now is sea-room, rest and no hard decisions.
 
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