mcframe
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OK - what's happening here?
(Nationality of vessel & crew, club membership, circumstances, etc
(Nationality of vessel & crew, club membership, circumstances, etc
Another Ensign thread
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Billjratt
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"What land is this, my good man?" I'll just fly the lot to cover all the angles....
lenseman
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Just drying the bunting after using the Dhobi Room. 
Sandyman
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Just drying the bunting after using the Dhobi Room.
Tis a Dhoby House ya Bunting Tozzer har har har
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Bloody Nosser!
BelleSerene
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Royal Southern YC above Lloyds of London YC.
Beats me what the (courtesy?) flag at the top is. Where did you take the picture?
Beats me what the (courtesy?) flag at the top is. Where did you take the picture?
Searush
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Wot Ensign? Them's burgees. And if you want us to identify them, we need to be able to see them clearly, not all wibbly wobbly & curled up.
NormanS
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the top one looks a bit like someone's attempt to have a Scottish Saltire with a red background. Now I can just about understand having that at the ensign staff, but if they think it's appropriate as a courtesy ensign when visiting Scotland from furrin pairts,.....well!
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SkerryMerry
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3 vapour trails?
BelleSerene
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Got it. The top one is the 'Scottish Red Ensign' of the Royal Scots Navy, which merged with the English Royal Navy in 1707. All is revealed on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Scots_Navy
Then it's the burgees of the Royal Southern and the Lloyds of London YC as I posted above.
What this is doing being hoisted either as a courtesy flag or above the club burgee, I can neither explain nor justify.
Then it's the burgees of the Royal Southern and the Lloyds of London YC as I posted above.
What this is doing being hoisted either as a courtesy flag or above the club burgee, I can neither explain nor justify.
mcframe
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You're getting close - yes, the top one is supposed to be a Scottish Red Ensign, but the blue is a bit too dark - I suppose it might be OK as a spare.
Your identification of the burgees is also correct - I wonder what could possibly be going on, and await explaination ;-)
BelleSerene
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If you think that's only close, perhaps this is more accurate: how about the 'ensign' was bought from http://www.mrflag.com/p/4941/Scotland__Red_Ensign.html: "NB: This flag is made using the original (darker) saltire blue used in the Union Jack"?
So come clean: your boat? If not, what's your story?
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NormanS
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Aparently the dark blue in the union flag was used because the dark blue dye was cheaper. 
The origin of the Scottish Saltire was when King Angus, just before the battle of Athelstaneford, in 800 and something, saw a white cross, (clouds or vapour trails, take your pick), in the sky. I very much doubt if the sky was navy blue.
"Proper" Scottish flags have a sky-blue background.
The origin of the Scottish Saltire was when King Angus, just before the battle of Athelstaneford, in 800 and something, saw a white cross, (clouds or vapour trails, take your pick), in the sky. I very much doubt if the sky was navy blue.
"Proper" Scottish flags have a sky-blue background.
RestlessL
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Aparently the dark blue in the union flag was used because the dark blue dye was cheaper.
The origin of the Scottish Saltire was when King Angus, just before the battle of Athelstaneford, in 800 and something, saw a white cross, (clouds or vapour trails, take your pick), in the sky. I very much doubt if the sky was navy blue.
"Proper" Scottish flags have a sky-blue background.
Visiting Edinburgh last year I was struck by the number of navy blue "saltires" that were flying - nearly half were in the dark shade, inlcuding some of the larger ones above the main buildings on the Royal Mile.
NormanS
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I find that very surprising. Maybe the bright sunshine here in Scotland confused your sunglasses.
michael_w
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"I don't have enough signal halyards or masts".
mcframe
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Not my boat - it's boat "F", belonging to forumite "J".
I had been crewing on a race (round point "N"), and when we retired - lack of wind - the engine failed.
We left boat "F" on a visitors mooring off "S", displaying some club burgees - "J" thought they might help identify her to any concerned parties - not least the club whose mooring it was (One is "J"s, the other is for his SO - I think they were in order of precedence).
On the day "J" was returning to collect "F", I just happened to be passing in my boat, "W", and couldn't resist the temptation to board "F" and hoist my spare Scots ensign above the burgees - hence indicating that "F" was a prize of war.
I then retired to anchor in bay "P", 3/4 mile SE where I could wait and watch for "J"s arrival (Yes, with my red ensign on my backstay and a Scots ensign at my port crosstrees ;-)
Details haven't been obscured very well, but, yes; it's a boat belonging to a Lloyds club member, his SO is Royal Southern; and a revolting Scot has claimed it as a prize of war.
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BelleSerene
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Isn't that a GK24 boom?
mcframe
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Look, A GK24 wouldn't begin with the letter "F", would it?
ObTrueScottishPirateMetal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-Z_psXODw
Searush
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Gawd, my head hurts. No wonder people don't like ensign threads. I suppose it makes sense to somoen - and good luck to them.
