Anode degradation

I used to have a similar boat, Merry Fisher 805, and the anodes didn't last long either. I fitted a hull anode, as post #14 suggests. Connected to the gearbox with a bridge wire over the shaft coupling. Didn't fit a prop or shaft anode, the large hull anode lasted the season and never had any issues.
 
Hi Jamie
The anodes on my 760 behave similarly to yours (I'm in a marina).
I guess it means they are working but it's a pain when the prop one degrades so quickly.

Prop anode has never lasted more than a few months - whenever I swim down to have a look it's either half chewed or it's disappeared again.
The 2 x 50mm round ones either side of the keel skeg last about a year.
The 2 x 70mm round ones either side of the rudder will do about 18months+ easy.

Aside from when I dry out on a beach in the summer I get it lifted once every 6-8 months for a wash and replace them as necessary.

Not sure what else you can do with those prop anodes - I had the continuity checked when it was out the water and the engineer said looked fine.
Line of sight is ok too with metal fittings and the other anodes.

The annoying thing with those Beneteau prop anodes is that you can't scale them up and also their design means they are only secure for as long as they keep their shape where the anode mates to the prop shaft.
Once some material has been lost against the keyed spline they will spin round on the screw when engine is in gear, wear the hole out then slip quietly off the end of the mounting screw.
I've tried putting nail polish on the spline and where the screw mates and also a blob of grease or sika in the hole to stop that section eroding so quickly but not sure it added more than a month maybe...

Just got to keep replacing them!
Which reminds me...
I need to book a lift out for a wash and replace my prop anode ? :)
 
Keel is grp but the heel and rudder base are metal and has its own anodes. Maybe this shows the setup better. View attachment 118632
I assume the rope cutter is stainless like the shaft and rudder. This photo was taken when the boat was lifted before I bought it. The prop anode looks pretty worn again after only 3 months or so in the water.
Do you get similar degradation on the rudder anode?
 
Hi Jamie
The anodes on my 760 behave similarly to yours (I'm in a marina).
I guess it means they are working but it's a pain when the prop one degrades so quickly.

Prop anode has never lasted more than a few months - whenever I swim down to have a look it's either half chewed or it's disappeared again.
The 2 x 50mm round ones either side of the keel skeg last about a year.
The 2 x 70mm round ones either side of the rudder will do about 18months+ easy.

Aside from when I dry out on a beach in the summer I get it lifted once every 6-8 months for a wash and replace them as necessary.

Not sure what else you can do with those prop anodes - I had the continuity checked when it was out the water and the engineer said looked fine.
Line of sight is ok too with metal fittings and the other anodes.

The annoying thing with those Beneteau prop anodes is that you can't scale them up and also their design means they are only secure for as long as they keep their shape where the anode mates to the prop shaft.
Once some material has been lost against the keyed spline they will spin round on the screw when engine is in gear, wear the hole out then slip quietly off the end of the mounting screw.
I've tried putting nail polish on the spline and where the screw mates and also a blob of grease or sika in the hole to stop that section eroding so quickly but not sure it added more than a month maybe...

Just got to keep replacing them!
Which reminds me...
I need to book a lift out for a wash and replace my prop anode ? :)
Yup, we all have similar experience. My Antares 760 prop anode lasts 3 to 4 months but I also have a hull mounted pear anode with good continuity bonding to the prop so even after the prop anode has gone I still have some prop protection.

Www.solocoastalsailing.co.uk
 
Yup, we all have similar experience. My Antares 760 prop anode lasts 3 to 4 months but I also have a hull mounted pear anode with good continuity bonding to the prop so even after the prop anode has gone I still have some prop protection.

Www.solocoastalsailing.co.uk

Thanks Plumb.
I wondered about adding something else as the prop anode disappears so quickly.
Where did you fit the pear anode and how did you link the prop end of the shaft to the pear?

I've read about these to link the prop shaft by surface contact but never seen one in real life.
MG Duff Electro Eliminator for Shafts 40mm - 100mm Diameter | ASAP Supplies

That said I've not discovered any noticeable corrosion to the prop or shaft since I bought the boat in 2018 despite the lack of protection by the prop anode when it disappears. The running gear seems to carry on regardless from what I can see but there may be hidden effects I guess.
 
On my opinion there is also galvanic connetion from rudder to the shaft via engine housing....
Yes I've got that on mine (there is a bonding cable connecting the gearbox to the rudder stock) - that might be enough in itself to avoid too much electrolysis when the prop anode has gone.

Will see what it all looks like below the waterline this month when it comes out for a wash and inspection.
 
Prop anode has never lasted more than a few months - whenever I swim down to have a look it's either half chewed or it's disappeared again.
I’ve bought a cheap GoPro with a waterproof case to check anodes in future, much more civilised ? Connection from rudder stock to bell housing all good (although I did discover that the bolt on the bell housing was very loose a couple of years ago), the 1kg hull anode cabled to the rudder stock lasts for a season (6 months) before needing to be replaced which is ok, I’m guessing this takes the strain off the rudder blade anodes which never erode. The anodes on the skeg prop guard erode fast but just about last a season. I’m planning on changing from disc anodes to a pear anode on this for the upcoming season.
 
Good point re the GoPro - esp this time of year! :)
I'll check the gearbox and rudder connections for the bonding wire next time I visit the boat.
Cheers
 
I would check that the OP isn’t anchored over the cable that EDF use to take British electricity to France ????????
 
Could you fit something like this in front of the prop?
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The prop anodes on my Azi disappeared very quickly, despite protection from the galvanic isolator. I used shaft anodes in addition, and this allowed a full season of erosion. I don’t think there is sufficient material on the prop anode alone.
 
On my opinion there is also galvanic connetion from rudder to the shaft via engine housing....
My hull mounted pear anode had a high electrical resistance through the gearbox to the propshaft so I fitted a MG Duff Electro Eliminator........
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If I check the resistance between pear anode on the hull and propeller when out of the water it will usually be 0.4ohms. this gives me confidence I still have protection if the prop-mounted anode has wasted away.

Www.solocoastalsailing.co.uk
 
My hull mounted pear anode had a high electrical resistance through the gearbox to the propshaft so I fitted a MG Duff Electro Eliminator........
View attachment 149001

If I check the resistance between pear anode on the hull and propeller when out of the water it will usually be 0.4ohms. this gives me confidence I still have protection if the prop-mounted anode has wasted away.

Www.solocoastalsailing.co.uk
Does it work at anchor or just while the motor is running ?
 
I think the collective thought of too little anodic (?) protection seems likely. Nothing I can do about the size of the prop anode, rather than add layers of complexity with shaft add-ons etc I think a 3 monthly dry out and anode swap is the answer. Glad I’m not in a marina with requirement for a lift (y) As previously mentioned the rudder anode suffers no degradation, unlike the 1kg hull anode which is bonded to the rudder shaft/stock.
Larger anodes on the rudder may help, lower down.
 
My hull mounted pear anode had a high electrical resistance through the gearbox to the propshaft so I fitted a MG Duff Electro Eliminator........
View attachment 149001

If I check the resistance between pear anode on the hull and propeller when out of the water it will usually be 0.4ohms. this gives me confidence I still have protection if the prop-mounted anode has wasted away.

Www.solocoastalsailing.co.uk

The same can be achieved, usually, with a bridge wire across the flexible shaft coupling, if it's a solid coupling there normally isn't a need for either.
 
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